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Open Thread…………………………….October, 2017

October is absolutely my favorite month.  The air is crisp and clean.  It nips our cheeks and noses in the morning.

October is beautiful–nature’s color palette that continually changes.  Head to the mountains to drink it all in.  If you start in Front Royal,the tree scape will look totally different by the time you get to Big Meadows.

October has wonderful smells.  A burning campfire, fallen leaves, fruits and spices all send our olfactory senses on a month long high.  Our autumn expert, North of Nokesville, aka North, really paints fall with his words. North has brought fall to the blog and I thank him.

Shame shame shame on rudeness and borrowing trouble

potomaclocal.com:

 

WOODBRIDGE — An effort to rename Route 1 — Jefferson Davis Highway — in Prince William County failed to gain the support of multiple elected leaders, Tuesday night.

Woodbridge District Supervisor Frank Principi wanted to change the moniker of the highway, named after Confederate President Jefferson Davis.

The Democrat said the highway’s name represents “bigotry and oppression.”

“My intention is not to ignore or to erase history…These names are haunting, and they serve as a reminder of a time of great pain, suffering, and great loss,” said Principi.

His motion failed to gain a second, and that drew the ire of many who came to speak to the Board of Supervisors in favor of the name change.

The group shouted “shame, shame, shame” before Chairman Corey Stewart; At-large ordered the audience out of the Board Chambers.

Others also shouted at John Jenkins, a long-serving Democrat on the board, for not supporting his fellow Democrat’s motion.

“You call yourself a Democrat,” cried one person as the audience got out of their seats to exit the room.

After the audience cleared the room, a video of the meeting captured Potomac District Supervisor Maureen Caddigan’s displeasure with the crowd.

“I can’t believe this. This is what it has come down to?” she asked. “They’ve got to start obeying our rules…they are the rudest people… I’ve been on a lot of boards but this…”

The crowd was extremely rude.  Organizations have their own rules and procedures.  The BOCS is no different.  Corey was right to clear the room rather than dealing with petulant, ill-mannered, insulting  behavior.

Shame on Frank Principi.  Why compare us to Charlottesville?  We don’t have the same problems Charlottesville has and has had.  I feel he invited trouble.  The road names Principi discussed  are state controlled.  School names come under the auspices and jurisdiction  of the School Board and the fire house is a semi-private entity.  Frank needs to deal with things over which he has control, not things beyond his control as a supervisor.

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Was it an act of “pure evil?”

Was the mass murder in Las Vegas an act of “pure evil” as stated by Donald Trump or was it something else? Is mental illness “pure evil” or some chemical imbalance in people’s brains? I do believe there is evil. Don’t get me wrong. But I am very uncomfortable branding all bad things evil.

At some point I think we as a society need to start taking a long, hard look at our own contributions to these unspeakable acts. Is it easier to control mental illness or whether citizens and residents get their hands on inordinate amount of weapons with little or no background checks as to stability and temperament to own such weapons?

I don’t necessarily want to go round up everyone’s weapons. I have been clear on that in the past. I want certain weapons to be available to most of us. Simple guns, pistols, rifles that the average citizen can use for personal protection should be available for purchase and ownership for most of the population. However….

Weapons like those used in the Vegas massacre should not be owned by everyone. Now, should certain individuals be allowed to purchase such weapons after presenting themselves for intense vetting? Yes, probably. Gun ownership of those types of semi automatic weapons should not be the default.

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Nat Turner to be honored on statue in Richmond

Dailyprogress.com:

RICHMOND — A state commission planning an anti-slavery monument in downtown Richmond voted Wednesday to include Nat Turner, the leader of a bloody 1831 slave uprising in Southampton County, among a group of 10 African-American figures who will be honored on the statue’s base.

The work on the new statue being done by the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Commission has thus far avoided controversy, but the decision to include Turner — seen as a freedom fighter by many and a mass murderer by others — is likely to bring a new level of attention to the planning process for the monument meant to celebrate the Emancipation Proclamation and the end of slavery.

Turner was by far the most hotly debated name Wednesday as a panel of state lawmakers and historians tried to select 10 honorees from a list of 30 finalists.

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Ken Burns and Lynn Novick: The Vietnam War

Has everyone gotten their initial Ken Burns fix? The first episode was 90 minutes last night and just excellent. Most of what I saw was new to me. I expect to learn so much from this series.  Last night did not disappoint.  I had no idea that the beginning  issues went back to 1858.

Like much that happened post WWII, we sure misread that one, and of course, sacrificed another generation of young men as a result.  57,000 names on a wall is just too many names–too many names for something we shouldn’t have been involved in.

Start looking for parallels.  How long will we be involved in our current wars?  Is there an end in sight?   Bush, Obama and Trump have all been swallowed up by our current wars.

When will we ever learn?

Meanwhile, enjoy a fine documentary.  I look forward to seeing all sides.  Each show is 90 minutes and it runs for 2 weeks.  For those who miss an episode, there are lots of opportunities the next day to catch a missed show.  The last few episodes appear to be 120 minutes each.  The series runs 18 hours in all.

Recall takes on a life of its own

As the current chairman of the PWC school board continues to assert his supposed authority, the public becomes more and more dissatisfied.  This truck (see left) was seen in the Haymarket Parade today.

I have been told that the recall group had a booth also.

If half of what I read about this chairman is true, it’s just time for him to settle down.

He cannot go around intimidating employees, colleagues, or others.  He is not the school board “boss” like he thinks he is.  All board members are equal, despite what Sawyers thinks.

I have lived in PWC a long time.  I remember the “4 Horsemen.”  We thought that was the nadir of poor school boards.  Now I am not so sure.

Surely Ryan Sawyers does not think he can run successfully for Congress.  I would sure hate to vote for Rob Wittman but I surely will if those two are my only choices.  I cannot tell you how painful that would be for me.

 

Trevor Noah on Antifa

Let me first say that I see no moral equivalence between the KKK, Nazi, and any antifa groups. This loosely knit organization has been around a long time and I don’t think anyone has every heard their spokesperson talk about killing any group of people. We cannot say the same for Nazis or for the KKK.

I  do not condone the behavior of this group. This is 2017. We should be able to settle our difference politically and otherwise without brawling, especially with the intent to harm or maim others. I also don’t approve of property damage. Would I put this group on the terrorist list? Yes, probably. I just wouldn’t equate them with Nazis or with the KKK.

That was a critical mistake on the part of Donald J. Trump.  There is no “Alt-Left.”  I don’t believe that anyone in the Democratic party mainstream claims this group or feels that it speaks for the Democrats.  That assignment has been handed forth by the “Alt-right” and it is based on a false premise.

Meanwhile, lets continue to condemn the KKK and the Neo-Nazis for their repugnant ideology.  Both organizations, whether original or “neo” have horrible, un-Americans beliefs.

Let’s condemn the behavior of groups like Antifa who act like street thugs, while agreeing that there IS a significant difference.

Much ado about nothing…?

The protestors from Charlottesville  just entered Prince William County.  All seemed peaceful.  I saw no covered faces or all-black attire.   The small band were exuberant–they chanted and shouted their cause (mainly to get rid of Trump).  Other than that, the horror stories that preceded them were exactly that–stories.

If Antifa was there, I sure didn’t see them.  Everyone just seemed to be visibly shouting out what they thought was right.

I was impressed with the heavy police presence.  The officers were courteous and vigilant.  Traffic was backed up pretty far.  I cut through and got turned around without having to get in the long line of traffic that had backed up.

Word to the wise–Protestors–don’t mess with commuters on Tuesday.  They will not have sympathy with any cause if they are inconvenienced.   That’s just how Northern Virginia commuters are.

 

Turning your back on heritage?

Jackson astride Ole Sorrel

Washingtonpost.com:

The Republican Party of Virginia said Wednesday that Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam, whose ancestors once owned slaves and fought in the Civil War, had “turned his back on his own family’s heritage” by calling for the removal of Confederate monuments.

The accusation drew swift condemnation from Democrats and some Republicans, who said it amounted to calling Northam a “race traitor.”

In a two-part tweet on its official account posted shortly after noon, the state party took aim at Northam, the Democratic nominee for governor, whose great-great-grandfather owned eight slaves in 1860 and nine slaves in 1850 on Virginia’s rural Eastern Shore.

“.@RalphNortham has turned his back on his own family’s heritage in demanding monument removal (1/2),” it read. “Shows @RalphNortham will do anything or say anything to try and be #VAGov – #Pathetic 2/2.”

The blowback was instant.

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Representative government at its worst

cnn.com:

Workers in Charlottesville, Virginia, placed a large black tarp Wednesday over a monument to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee that was the site of violent protests earlier this month.
Officials in Charlottesville, Virginia, have found black fabric big enough to shroud two controversial Confederate statues — and the covers could be in place by week’s end, the City Council clerk said.
Hunting down fabric swaths large enough to drape over the monuments of Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson had proven tough, the clerk, Paige Rice, told CNN.
But by Wednesday morning, the shrouds were on their way, she said.
“The drapes have been ordered and may be in place by the end of the week, pending department resources to properly secure them at both statues,” she told CNN.
At a heated meeting Monday, the Charlottesville City Council unanimously voted to cover the two statues in black.
The vote was meant to signal the city mourning the death of Heather Heyer, who was killed August 12 when a car plowed into a crowd of counterprotesters who’d gathered to oppose a rally of white nationalist and other right-wing organizations.
Since when do statues mourn?    The people of Charlottesville simply were not asked.  The only discussion was at a council meeting this week.  No advance notice.  Unilateral decisions were made.

There was never discussion about removing Stonewall Jackson, to my knowledge.

I expect the City Council needs to take a long hard look at the deeds to the land both statues are on.  Can Charlottesville afford the lawsuits?
How long will the shrouds stay?  No one knows.  I supposed shrouded statues might attract an unsavory element just as well as enshrouded statues.
What a shame.

Eclipse !!!!!!!

Where will you be when the great eclipse of 2017 happens?  Will you go to the path of totality or sit it out here in boring old Prince William  County?  I am probably headed for splash down in my air-conditioned car.  I won’t be taking pictures.

I have my glasses though.  Several batches of them.  I have some I can’t verify.  Grrrrr.  Mind you, I ordered glasses 2 months ago.  So cast your politics aside and enjoy a good eclipse.  Oh, and pray for no rain!

Anyone named Moon-Howler has to love a good eclipse!!!

A word of caution——————————–>

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Chairman Stewart has difficulty with moral equivalence and manners

CNN.com:

GOP Virginia Senate candidate Corey Stewart defends President Trump’s comments blaming both sides of the protest in Charlottesville for violence.

Corey has humiliated Prince William County with his behavior.  His tough guy persona is simply rude, crude and socially unattractive.     His bad manners on TV are an embarrassment.  His convoluted logic has turned him into a mental midget rather than the chairman of the 2nd most populated county in the State of Virginia.

I am uncomfortable with any politician who is in such denial that even he or she cannot see their own lies.  Apparently Corey missed seeing that torch walk that went on for almost a mile.  Apparently he didn’t hear the aggression used by young men sporting swastika arm bands.  Apparently he didn’t hear the anti-semitic remarks being made and by-standers being called “faggots.” Apparently he didn’t see torch fuel being thrown on college students.  He must not have seen the students circling the statue of Mr. Jefferson being surrounded by Nazis and beaten with torches and clubs.

I saw these things.  Corey, educate yourself.  I will send you the information.  Look outside yourself and what you want to be true for your own political gain.

Corey has 2 fine young sons who are rapidly growing up.  I feel almost positive he would be horrified if his sons joined any white nationalist group.  I was horrified to see how young the boys/men were in the torch procession.

Yes, there are violent groups out there who are not White Nationalists, Nazis, or KKK.  There are militia groups and Antifa.  Here is the difference, Corey:  Redneck Revolt, Antifa and BLM have not killed millions of people, or even thousands.  The Nazis and KKK have.  That fact alone ends the discussion.

His behavior with Chris Cuamo was no better:

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Wrong Trump! Wrong Corey!

There is no Alt-Left movement. Alt-Right was self naming.

The rally was organized by Jason Kessler and called “Unite the Right.”  The deplorable were invited.

The antifa people showed up in response to a gathering of white supremacists.

NBCNews.com:

What is antifa?

Antifa is short for “anti-fascist.” It is a loosely organized coalition of protesters, left-wing activists, and self-described anarchists who vow to physically confront “fascists” — meaning anyone who espouses bigoted or totalitarian views.

Dana R. Fisher, a sociologist who has studied protest movements in the United States for decades, said she’s come to view Antifa protesters as a militant response to the rise in visibility of white nationalist organizations since Trump’s election.

“Violence begets violence,” she said. “One of these groups is coming out with this violent message of hate, and the other has responded with a violent, reactive message.”

President Trump and Corey Stewart both need to be honest about who was there and who started the violence.  I watched 45 minutes of the torch march on Friday night.  There is no doubt in my mind who started tings.  Antifa wasn’t even present Friday night–just a few college students who encircled Mr. Jefferson’s statue.  Some of them had the living hell beaten out of them.  One campus librarian had a stroke because of injuries he sustained.

Trump and Corey, you need to revamp your message and base it on truth.