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Manassas To Adopt Section 287(g) Program Monday

February 23rd, 2008

Is it just my perception or do areas like Sudley, Westgate, Irongate and Georgetown have more foreclosures than areas in the City of Manassas?  It’s especially noticeable when comparing Bristoe Station to these other neighborhoods that are located within Prince William County’s limits.  Of course there is the perception that the City of Manassas is more hospitable so it is entirely believable that they are reaping the benefits in terms of their housing market.  But presumably that could all change.  Of course, the City of Manassas are well within their rights to do so, just be forewarned of the impending consequences in their real estate market and budget.

Additionally, if they are sharing the same jail facility the expectation it would mean an additional increase because the facility is already overcrowded.  In terms of misdeamenor crimes,  probably there’s a wide variation that are considered to be misdeamenors.  For instance littering, there’s no problem with people being cited for this infraction; however there’s a fear that it could be used in an effort to vigourously go after individuals that are perceived to be ‘illegal’.

In fact it is being, offenses like ‘making a sharp right turn’ or having a ‘license plate that appears to be bent’ are already being alleged as popular reasons for pulling cars over by drivers who might appear to be ‘illegal’.  This unwarrented scrutiny of individuals is causing legal residents to reconsider their allegiance to this community.

  1. One Voice
    February 23rd, 2008 at 16:59 | #1

    I doubt that thing will get to that extreme -sharp right turns and such. Police Officers have been dealing with racial profiling issues for years. Most of those officers under 35 have grown up in a more accepting and diverse USA and this area is much more urban than it was 25 years ago.

    Your point about the jail is well taken, this is going to cost us a million bucks or more. Currently, those arrested on a civil crime are not incarcerated. If there is no pending criminal warrant an illegal who is discovered say after a red light running … will be given a civil warrant to appear in federal court. Unless someone decides to incarcerate them or change the federal law to make it criminal.

  2. admin
    February 24th, 2008 at 00:28 | #2

    I watched the PWC Board meeting on January 8th and had to laugh when a woman claimed the police ‘rolled their eyes’ at her when she told them she was with the Help Save Manassas Organization. My concern and ironically people are making it from both perspectives is that subjectivity is part of police work. One can not expect that all police officers treat suspects identically.

    At the US Human Rights Commission meeting the Human Rights/Immigration Attorney that presented used these two scenarios as examples that have already transpired. It’s odd because people would claim well the resolution hadn’t taken affect yet so these examples are invalid. But yet Chairman Stewart wants to take credit for the 400 immigration arrest cases. Kind of odd to take credit for something’s success before it’s ‘supposedly’ implemented.

  3. Juturna
    February 24th, 2008 at 08:36 | #3

    Well, one would have to believe the woman, first!? Anyway, this is happening now because the jailers at the ADC have the 287(g). That’s all PWC needed. The rest, getting officers this authority, is posturing. Check around the Country, mostly it is Sheriff’s and Jailers getting the training. Sheriff’s very often run the jails.

  4. Moon-howler
    February 24th, 2008 at 09:55 | #4

    Subjectivity will always be part of police work. I guess that is where the expression good cop-bad cop comes from.

    I laughed like Hell when I heard that woman talk about eye rolling. Can you blame them?

  5. independent thinker
    February 24th, 2008 at 11:23 | #5

    The reality is that we are talking about targeting a select group of people, hispanics. I am pretty sure that I will NEVER be asked about my citizenship validity. I go again to one of my favorite quotes:

    First they came for the Jews
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for the Communists
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a Communist.
    Then they came for the trade unionists
    and I did not speak out
    because I was not a trade unionist.
    Then they came for me
    and there was no one left
    to speak out for me.

    Pastor Martin Niemöller

  6. February 24th, 2008 at 21:08 | #6

    Must have been a good cop. I probably would have done more than roll my eyes. Which I guess is why I’m not very popular, eh? : )

  7. Charlotte
    February 24th, 2008 at 22:10 | #7

    Indie Thinker, thanks for posting that quote. This is why I speak out now.

  8. Guadalupe Hildago
    February 25th, 2008 at 11:41 | #8

    Let them profile us! We will bankrupt them with lawsuits with help from the ACLU. VIVA LA RAZA!

  9. redawn
    April 7th, 2008 at 20:27 | #9
  10. ribbit76
    April 10th, 2008 at 15:59 | #10

    I am tired everyday to see my closest off to work in fear of he may not make it home because he “has no right to be here”. I wonder what would happen if they took him away, sent him back to Mexico. It is sad that his wife and daughter are “legal”, but it is so hard to become that. Our govt. is making it so difficult to give amnesty to those who are already here. We thought that because he has started his own little “American” family, and has never been in trouble with the law, and has been teaching himself english from before I met him. If he tries to become “legal” he would be sent back to Mexico to be chastised for crossing illegally. he would not be able to come back to the States for atleast 10 years! After 10 years, who would want to leave where they are living at? We are waiting for the new president to take office. If there hasn’t been any progress in the reform of illegal immigration by next year, I’m afraid we must move to Mexico. It is not fair that he should be ina place he is not welcome, and having to check behind his back all the time. I am an American-Mexican. Sure, I’ve lived in Mexico when I was a little girl, but I really do not want to live there now. I feel that my govt. has failed me because it should not even allow me the notion of moving to another country an option. I am so angry at times. I’m hoping this blog is better than MJM. I am so tired of arguing with racists. I can’t understand why we can’t learn form history’s mistakes and just accept people for who they are, not what type, color, creed, etc. It is a sad world we live in! Our country is basically in the midst of another civil war regarding immegration. Our govt. is allowing our country to tear itself apart. How could we have forgotten how USA started out? We have been forgotten by our govt. while it polices the world overseas! Shame on you! If anything the “terrorists” are sitting back and smiling at how we are slowly breaking at the seams, the seams of America.

  11. Bubba in the Park
    April 10th, 2008 at 16:21 | #11

    ribbit76,

    I feel sorry for your situation but exactly how many of the milllions of illegals do you want the government to grant amnesty to? All of them?

  12. ribbit76
    April 12th, 2008 at 00:59 | #12

    Bubba, thanks for your condolences, but what would be wrong granting amnesty to most of them? Sure, the criminals should go back. But what about the rest that may be in my situation? They are here anyways, so what is the problem?

  13. Dignidad
    April 13th, 2008 at 07:12 | #13

    What is wrong with granting amnesty is that the cycle will never end if we do. If we could seal the border it might be different.
    It is sad and difficult, but those who came illegally did it consciously. They have always run the risk of being deported. Unfortunately for them, their chances of being deported have increased in the last 2 years.

  14. Dignidad
    April 13th, 2008 at 07:12 | #14

    What is wrong with granting amnesty is that the cycle will never end if we do. If we could seal the border it might be different.
    It is sad and difficult, but those who came illegally did it consciously. They have always run the risk of being deported. Unfortunately for them, their chances of being deported have increased in the last 2 years.

  15. Dignidad
    April 13th, 2008 at 07:13 | #15

    Sorry about that double click and double post1

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