According to CNN, Arthur Mkoyan, a California highschool validictorian planning to study medicine a California state university is now facing deportation just 10 days after graduation. Arthur’s family arrived in the United States in 1995 and have been trying to obtain legal status for over a decade.

41 Thoughts to “This Week, Validictorian; Next Week, Deportee”

  1. Poor Richard

    ” Half of all Silicon Valley start-ups have one founder who is an immigrant or
    first-generation American. America’s new burst of energy … its ability
    to invent the future rest on its immigration policy. If America can keep the
    people it educates in the country, the innovation will happen here. If they
    go home, the innovation will travel with them”
    Faareed Zakaria

  2. And yet, if he Mkoyan had enlisted in the Armed Forces and was killed in active duty, he would have been allowed to stay…

    Yet another example of how our immigration system has utterly failed.

    Thanks for posting Alanna.

  3. inon

    I heard about this only I heard the ending of the story of this boy, originally from albania:

    Mkoyan is being offered an international student scolarship and after being deported will return to the California university as an international student.

    Amazing how that part was left out of the CNN story. So all is well.

  4. Poor Richard

    This isn’t a call for altruism in American immigration policy, but to common
    sense and our enlightened self interest — we must continue
    to attract and nurture the world’s best and brightest — not send them away.

    “Immigration gives America a quality rare for a rich nation — hunger
    and energy”.
    Fareed Zakaria

  5. Elena

    What, let common sense prevail? What a silly idea Poor Richard.

  6. Poor Richard

    Glad to read that inon — that is good news, but still think the system is flawed.
    A key immigration question for me — will you add to our society or take away
    from it? This young man is a no-brainer.

  7. Rick Bentley

    Hey let’s just ignore the rules and all do what we want.

  8. Just Cause

    might as well..I read today that a gang banger that killed a guy recently was first caught back in 2003 for gang activity (and for being here illegally) so he was deported, Only to return and commit murder but he was captured again..now will he be deported again or will he serve time???

  9. junkyard dog

    That family had applied for political assylum and were waiting for the long drawn out outcome, according to the interview on tv.

    I don’t think they were disregarding the almighty rules.

  10. Poor Richard

    I don’t see much value in labeling immigrants all good or all bad. They are
    individuals like the rest of us and should be judged as such. Throw the
    book at the bad guys – in fact, drop the whole bookcase on them.
    But this post was focused on the story of a very promising young guy who
    got entangled in our flawed immigration system.

    How about keep the good – toss out the bad as a simple core concept?

  11. elvis

    how about you temper this story, with this one:

    Subject: UPDATE: Homicide Suspect Apprehended

    Manassas City Press Release

    On 6-5-08: Sebastian Cortez HERNANDEZ was apprehended at approximately 11:00 pm by U.S. Marshals in Meriden, Connecticut.
    Apprehended with him were two other subjects that were wanted in connection to this murder.

    Jose Antonio Ontiveros 27, and Santos Ontiveros 24, of 9733 Bragg Lane, Manassas. Both have been charged with Murder and Use of a Firearm in the Commission of a Felony.

    It was discovered during the investigation Sebastian Cortez Hernandez was arrested by Prince William County Police in June of 2003 on charges of Gang Participation and other criminal offenses. According to records Hernandez was deported in October 2003 from the United States to Mexico.

    does the above scare anyone? Does me

  12. Slowpoke Rodriguez

    elvis,

    So racist! Clearly you don’t appreciate the diversity brought to the community by hard-working children of God like Sebbie “The Onion” Hernandez. He is just trying to make a better life for himself and practicing a custom common to his native country, which you obviously don’t respect and welcome. Racist! Racist! Racist!

  13. immatty

    inon wrote:
    Mkoyan is being offered an international student scolarship and after being deported will
    return to the California university as an international student.
    Amazing how that part was left out of the CNN story. So all is well.

    I’m not sure where you got this from, but it is wrong. Upon leaving, he will be barred from reentering the United States for a period of ten years. Furthermore, he has no qualifying relatives for a waiver of the ten year bar. All is not well.

  14. Our justice system is based on the notion that people will be judged as individuals, not groups. They shall be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

    What’s so hard about ‘innocent until proven guilty’ for you immigrant-haters to understand?

  15. Alanna

    Rick,
    Quick question, what did you think of the abusive driver fees being repealed? Immigration law and its application are in desperate need of modification.

  16. Alanna

    Welcome immatty,
    Can you tell me about the ‘qualifying relatives for the waiver of the 10 year bar’?

  17. OneForTheRoad

    WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP! Racist alert! Racist alert! We have a racist on board!

  18. Alanna

    Poor Richard,
    I don’t see much value in labeling immigrants all good or all bad. They are
    individuals like the rest of us and should be judged as such. Throw the
    book at the bad guys – in fact, drop the whole bookcase on them.
    But this post was focused on the story of a very promising young guy who
    got entangled in our flawed immigration system.

    How about keep the good – toss out the bad as a simple core concept?

    Love that CONCEPT!

  19. Moon-howler

    Poor Richard. Absolutely! Great concept.

    Elvis, Yes but what does it have to do with the topic of this thread. You just wrote about bad apples, criminals even. The young man who ‘stars’ in this thread is valedictorian of his class and to my knowledge, not criminal record.

  20. Moon-howler

    correction: make that NO criminal record.

  21. Elena

    immatty, 6. June 2008, 19:36

    Welcome immaty! Thank for your clarification regarding this validictorian’s ability to re-enter the U.S. legally. 10 years, that will seem like a lifetime to this young man.

  22. anon

    From the articles I’ve read on this, there is much contradictory information. However, Senator Feinstein’s office is looking at passing a bill for asylum, and other BALANCED articles suggest if not he would be offered a student visa and an international student scholarship as one of the posters said above.

    Most press articles are slanted to fit their agenda, and it appears in this case, many seem to have at least left out the detail that all is not as grim as it looks, and there are options. It seems the press would like you to believe he has ZERO options, which I don’t think is a fair and balanced statement. The press has an agenda, and it suits their agenda to make one believe he’ll be deported and never allowed to come back to the USA for some lengthy period of time. Unfortunately, such slanted articles are all too common, and misinformation is intentionally used to stir people up. It is what fuels a lot of hatred and other things on a variety of controversial subjects.

  23. Rick Bentley

    Alanna, the abusive driver fees were too high. But the one change I favor to our immigration laws is to never reward anyone for breaking our law.

  24. Emma

    But Rick, if you get REALLY good grades, you should be allowed to stay. Only the stupid should get deported.

  25. junkyard dog

    How is asking for assylum breaking the law?

  26. Emma

    By the way, admin, it’s “valedictorian.”

  27. Rick Bentley

    Let’s take it further and say if you’re a really good student you can drive drunk once in a while or something like that.

  28. Emma

    or, if you’re a really good student, you can commit an occasional armed robbery.

  29. Moon-howler

    Very bad argument. If you have a visitors visa, you are here legally. Duration of time is what puts you out of status, not severity of ‘crime.’ They obviously didn’t cross the southern border.

  30. maribel

    Gregg reynolds received a well deserved butt-kicking and face slapping today in the MJM. Robert Molleur’s letter to the editor “Reynolds doesn’t want illegal alien assimilation” was excellent. Mr. Reynolds is so full of venom …..he needs help NOW!

  31. Elena

    “maribel”

    Have you ever met Gregg Reynolds? The man ends every conversation with “G-d Bless You”

    Tell me, exactly, how this man is “full of venom”, his words verbatum, not your interpretation.

  32. Poor Richard

    To hell with Sebastion Hernandez – and the sooner the better. He, and punks
    like him, poison any civilized society. No sane person defends the
    actions of trash like him.

    But not all immigrants are murderous gang-bangers, no more than all native born folks
    are deranged racist.

    Going back to focus of the original posting, the question is does Arthur
    Mkyon give strong evidence that he will be a productive citizen
    and help our country? If he does, who does it serve to deport him?

  33. “Only the stupid should get deported”

    LMAO!!!!! Damn, there wouldn’t be enough money in the world to do that! Half our country would be gone!

  34. “Mr. Reynolds is so full of venom …..he needs help NOW!”

    Maribel, if indeed Mr. Reynolds needs help (which he obvioulsy doesn’t as he has ample connections and supporters of his own), I hardly think you would be the one to give it.

  35. you wish

    “LMAO!!!!! Damn, there wouldn’t be enough money in the world to do that! Half our country would be gone!”

    Including you.

    Look – this has nothing to do with the “fight” here in PWC. The student had been here for 10 years, seeking asylum. Is it sad that he is being deported with his family – yes, especially since they tried to go through the proper channels and the system let them down. The difference is that this family came here because of a real threat to their lives in Armenia. They tried to do the right thing by seeking legal asylum.

  36. Why, You Wish, how dare you assume I wouldn’t count myself among those to be deported for stupidity? I think it’s safe to say most human beings would qualify at one time or another.

  37. junkyard dog

    No one listens to Robert Molleur. Why on earth would anyone listen to that crude, vulgar individual. Kenneth Reynolds outclasses Robert Molleur at every turn.

    Maribel, you live in a dream world. I may not always agree with Kenneth Reynolds but he is truly a fine gentleman who would probably cut his tongue out before comparing a lady like Hilda Barg to a tampon, like Robert Molleur has done in the past.

    Analogy: Kenneth Reynolds:class as Robert Molleur: NO CLASS

  38. Red Dawn

    HOLD ON!!!!!!!
    KENNETH Reynolds is a poster here and GREG Reynolds was the author of the article.
    I have seen this argument before and did NOT say anything.

  39. Emma

    kgotthardt, 7. June 2008, 19:02
    LMAO!!!!! Damn, there wouldn’t be enough money in the world to do that! Half our country would be gone!

    Surely you’re not suggesting that half of our country are illegal immigrants, and they are stupid?
    (tongue planted firmly in cheek here)

    Anyway, I have wondered if Kenneth Reynolds and Gregg Reynolds are one and the same. Their writing is linguistically similar.

  40. Alanna

    Maribel,
    I too see your comments about Mr. Reynolds being ‘full of venom’ to be absolutely ludicrous. You obviously don’t know Mr. Reynolds. You’ve proven yourself unreliable in your posts here in the past by proclaiming to be Hispanic and attempting to speak Spanish but were caught using the improper gender. Now, how are we expected to take you seriously?

  41. Elena

    “maribel”,
    They are two different people, I know this for a fact, having spoken to each of them. In any event, both are kind hearted people. Gregg Reynolds doesn’t have a venemous bone in his body. I think you are just projecting your own attributes onto someone else.

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