“At a John McCain rally in Woodbridge, Virginia, three people handed out “Obama for Change” bumper stickers with the Communist sickle and hammer and the Islamic crescent, saying Obama was a socialist with ties to radical Islam. Several moderate McCain supporters, Muslim and Christian alike, struck back – relentlessly bombarding the group distributing the flyers until they left the premises.”

(ANP)

A huge thank you to Fontbonne for finding this video and for bringing it to my attention for posting.

Several video threads have been posted about outrageous speech coming from McCain supporters. Well, here we go again, you might be thinking.

Not so fast. You will get to see McCain supporters running off 3 someones who are peddling hate. It really made me proud, Prince William Proud, to see these moderate McCain supporters standing up for what is right.

Enjoy, This is a good one and thanks again Fontbonne.

115 Thoughts to “PWC McCain Supporters Squelch Hate Propaganda”

  1. NotGregLetiecq

    I’m tempted not to justify the accusation that I’m afraid of white people with a response, but all I will say is that I’m not afraid of white people in general. I can list a few boyfriends that were white but I won’t go down the “Hello” path and insinuate sexual acts as well (=

    I merely stated that one of the videos on a previous thread was frightening. Many non-ethnic people said so as well. I went so far as to say they were white people and frightening because they seemed to be over-stimulated by hatred toward people like me. In the future, I will refrain from mentioning their race. I could easily have said they were frighting merely for the fact that they were screaming and seething with hatred. It’s fair to say that a mob of people behaving that way would be frightening to any person, whatever race you are, and whatever race they are.

    So, for what it’s worth, I apologize for putting the word “white” in the sentence. But the sentiment is the same. Them people is scary!

  2. Moon-howler

    Good point, Rick. I liked how he did that also. He was all over that one. Quick thinking.

    In general, all the candidates have some positive qualities. I could never vote for Sarah Palin. She is far too conservative to garner my vote. Additionally, I don’t feel she is ready for the VP or the presidency. Her knowledge base seems limited, judging from the interviews I saw.

    On the other hand, she certainly has sparked something in a great many people. She is attractive, humorous, and works a crowd well, which is what a running mate should be able to do.

    Were our world views closer, rather than light years apart, I would find her a neat candidate. Anyone who has gone as far in life as she has is certainly not an embarrassment to women. And let’s face it, Alaska is not the cultural center of the United States. It is outback and rough and tumble.

  3. TWINAD

    Warning! If you click on the above link in Hello’s post, an article comes up that makes absolutely NO MENTION of Obama supporters vandalizing cars or intimidating McCain supporters! I read it twice to make sure I didn’t miss something.

    Hello, do us all a favor and try to post a link to an article that actually CITES what you are saying it does in your post. Not all of us read every link and might actually take you at your word. I won’t make that mistake again. The vandalism of cars with McCain stickers must be something posted at BVBL.cesspool.

  4. Hello, you are missing the point: when someone who is appointed has NO qualifications for the job except a pretty face (and I mean for VP) then she is an embarassment. The fact that she is a complete DIP and people LAUGH at her is even worse. I am trying to picture her in a room full of cultures that don’t respect women in authority. Can you imagine what would happen to our country if she came out with something like, “Well, I can see your country from my house! Tee hee!” Give me a break! Palin thinks she can get away with almost anything because she is a pretty woman.

    Let’s put it another way: Rice is a gorgeous woman and doesn’t have to tout it to get people to repsect her. And she has had to bust her ass to get to where she is. Give me Rice to Palin ANY day. Give me someone I can be PROUD of. In the meantime, keep Palin in Alaska. Maybe someday she WILL be someone we can be prouder of in a position of higher authority, but now certainly is NOT that time IMHO.

    Hello, your logic is still way off and you avoid the important questions here, the one you brought up by your “making it to the top” issues. You asked, “What have you accomplished with your life? Have you ever made it to the top of any?” trying to compare my life to Palin’s. First, this isn’t about me. Then when I ask you about YOUR life, you do a double take and change the subject to Alaska. That’s fine, but realize you are skirting the issue here and that your question has no merit because of it. Neither does your argument.

  5. NotGregLetiecq

    This is the video from a previous thread that scared me:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHrExRHZnm0

    Tell me that’s not scary to you. Imagine watching that and knowing that if you were standing there they might have come after you because of the way you look. I know that everyone has at one point or another feared they would be targeted because of how they look. Many of us have experienced it.

    If they were a mob of black people who were hating on whites, I would be afraid as well, but not afraid for me, afraid for white brothers and sisters.

  6. ShellyB

    KG, I can say that Palin is an something of an embarrassment, but only because she is being held to the highest standard for the highest job in the land. I think she is competent to be a governor of a state with a population smaller than that of Richmond, VA. And she is more qualified for that job than the average person, man or woman. She had been a mayor and a town council woman, which are good enough qualifications for being a governor.

    But Sarah Palin is someone we have been asked to trust to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, in the event that John McCain’s life expectancy is an average to above average one, and not an extremely above average life span.

    As we know from the tenure of Jim Gilmore, there is only so much damage a Governor can do. Governors don’t have the code for our nukes. A President Palin would. How does that sit with you, honestly people?

  7. hello

    Warning! Twinad, the link I posted shows an obvious attempt by Obama supporters to get the McCain message off of the marquee. They even had the NAACP making calls for crying out loud. Why in the world would the NAACP care about anyone’s support of a candidate (with the exception of an admitted racist candidate)?

    If you want a story of cars with McCain stickers getting vandalized then here you go: http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/oct/18/owner-believes-lexus-vandalized-due-mccain-sticker/

  8. –I think she is competent to be a governor of a state with a population smaller than that of Richmond, VA.–

    Shelly, this is probably true (though that “God wills us to get gas lines” stuff is amazingly….let’s leave it at that).

    Let her stay there for awhile. Let her go to Congress. THEN let her try for something higher.

    My GOD, can you imagine (and REALLY stretch your imagination here) if someone said, “You know, let’s put Katherine Gotthardt on the ticket for BOCS Chair. You know, she has a minivan and sometimes makes funny jokes. She says the wrong thing sometimes, but hey….the moms might like her.”

    Can you imagine the loathing and laughter in this county????? LOL!!!!

    But here’s the thing: I woudn’t be stupid enough to say “Hee hee! Okay!” Palin, IMHO, showed tremendous arrogance and stupidity in saying YES. “Know thyself” isn’t something she has practiced, apparently.

  9. hello

    Pinko, if you want to know about my life I will tell you, no problem. However, give me your email because I feel a little uncomfortable doing it here.

  10. TWINAD

    So now people vocally complaining is not just plain complaining, but is now referred to in your terms as “intimidation”? Your post said Obama supporters were vandalizing cars (your second post was ONE CAR, one instance) and were intimidating McCain supporters. Intimidation is inciting fear in another human being, not making phone calls to a place of business irate that they would put up a political banner. Sorry, doesn’t cut it as intimidation.

  11. hello

    So Twinad, community activist Arthur Turner advocating a boycott of this mans business because of a McCain message on his marquee isn’t intimidating? Over 100 phone call and email to the manager of the hotel because of the sign didn’t somehow intimidate him into taking it down? Get real…

  12. Moon-howler

    Pax,

    My opinon of Concerned Women for America is very low. I would not bother to watch anything they published. As I am sure you are aware, it is a far right conservative group. I am not sure what is scaring you. Perhaps you should elaborate in your own words.

  13. Cat Scratch Fever

    Pax,
    Why be scared? That’s exactly what they want. Looks, like you fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

  14. hello

    If you want more reports of cars with McCain sticker getting vandalized just let me know Twinad. I just provided that one as an example.

  15. Hello, I don’t want your life story. I want you to THINK about your own life instead of asking me about MINE through your assertion that I’ve never made it “to the top of anything.” You might want to think about WHY you chose to say that. That’s all, really.

  16. Hello, there’s an NAACP meeting tonight at 7:30 Why don’t you go and lodge your complaint in person?

  17. hello

    I see Pinko, I apologize if asking you what you have accomplished offended you. I was trying to point out that what ever you think of Palin, good or bad, she is a successful woman. Not only is she a successful woman but she has done it in a male dominated profession. For someone like yourself who claims to have fought sexism all of your life to dismiss that and call her an embarrassment to all women is quite odd.

  18. Censored bybvbl

    Hello, any business owner who sticks a large political sign in front of his place of business has to be prepared for the consequences. I don’t mean that he or she should be prepared for his/her property to be vandalized, but he should be prepared for boycotts, phonecalls, etc. One of the businesses mentioned in your article is one which I boycott. The owner may be conveniently located near me and offer a product which I would normally buy, but I’ll never spend a dime at his place of business because of his political activities.

  19. hello

    Good point censored…

  20. BooHoo

    Why is this about “Moderate McCain Supporters” doing the “right thing”. The young man in the white t-shirt clearly identified himself as a “Christian Conservative”, and he was against what the “bumper sticker man” was saying. Why do you automatically label every angry McCain supporter as a “Conservative”? Heck, I am a conservative, and I don’t condone unfounded claims that Obama has ties to radical Islam. Do I think that he was exposesed to Islam as a religon during a formative period of his life? Yes. Do I think that deep down inside, Obama still holds on to part of this exposure to Islam, as indicated by his “flub” the other day, “my Muslim faith”? Yes, again. However, I have seen nor heard nothing that would indicate that the madrassa he attended in Indonesia was a radical one. Nor do I think he holds any sympathy for “Islamic Terroists”. The homegrown American Terrorists, like William Ayers, you betcha! But not Osama Bin Laden.

  21. ShellyB

    How much does a four year old really understand religion though, BooHoo? About as much as an eight year old understands anti-war radicalism, is my guess.

    Besides, when he lived in Indonesia, Obama went to Bible class every day while his classmates who were Muslim four year olds went to Koran class.

    When I was growing up I had classmates who were Jewish and classmates who were Catholic. I’m neither, nor did I change at all from the exposure to classmates who were.

  22. hello

    NGL, sorry bring this up again but you said “frightening because they seemed to be over-stimulated by hatred toward people like me”, how in the world are people cheering at the RNC over stimulated by hatred toward people like you? Do you think all republicans hate your race? I don’t get it…

  23. hello

    When it comes to religion I don’t see what it has to do with politics. I don’t think Obama is Muslim but so what if he is, that doesn’t mean that he is going to do anything to the U.S. in a bad way or be sympathetic to extremist. I think it has gotten to a point in the U.S. where being Muslim = terrorist or being an Arab = terrorist and I think that’s flat out wrong.

  24. Moon-howler

    Hello, I am going to go where angels fear to tread for just a moment here. I have not seen any videos that show Obama people doing something to McCain people. I even looked. Now I am not saying that they don’t exist, just that I haven’t seen them.

    I just finally saw the article you left about the marque in PG county. Now…here go the angel feet…..the guy can put up any kind of sign he wants supporting any candidate. Those who don’t like it can not go there. Sounds simple to me. What I don’t grasp is why the NAACP is in any way involved or why someone should get all wacked out because Obama is black. Well, no he isn’t. He is bi-racial. I suppose he is as white as he is black. Who cares.

    It works both ways. I honestly hate seeing an election come down to being about the color of someone’s skin. That makes me sick.

  25. –For someone like yourself who claims to have fought sexism all of your life to dismiss that and call her an embarrassment to all women is quite odd.–

    As VP she WOULD be embarrassing to women IMHO.

    I agree that religion doesn’t beling in office. That doesn’t mean our leaders shouldn’t be compassionate human being concerned about the good of all, however.

  26. Clarify exactly what the NAACP did (or allegedly did).

  27. Moon-howler

    Boo Hoo

    Why do you automatically label every angry McCain supporter as a “Conservative”?

    Would you like them labeled as liberals?

    Sorry you don’t like the post.

  28. hello

    Pinko, I’m not sure if you read the article but it said “Operators of neighborhood e-mail group lists cried foul to their memberships. The NAACP logged calls. Community leaders demanded boycotts of the hotel, a common venue for Democratic events.”

    It doesn’t explain any more than that about the NAACP other than they logged calls. Why would they log calls because someone had a McCain message up? I don’t know but it’s a darn good question.

  29. I don’t know. That’s what I didn’t understand. But I guess nothing surprises me in this election. The MJM did a whole story on this guy’s McCain’s sign being ripped down with a note being left. So who the heck knows.

  30. Chris

    NotGL,
    I’m just now seeing your comment to me at the very beginning of the thread. I think you may made more out of my consideration than it was. I only considered the three individuals to “fakes” for a split second. Well, as the “real deal” their behavior was not indicative of that of a supporter.

    I feel I can look at this video objectively. I’m one of the small percentage of voters in this great nation that are undecided. Frankly, neither McCain or Obama would be my choice. However, with Virginia being a battleground state, and PWC a battleground county within in the Commonwealth, I will have to pick one of these two men. I don’t feel this is the year to write someone in or throw my vote away on an ineffective third party. I am an INDEPENDENT to the core. We need a viable third party. I truly believe the both the R’s & D’s can both be too extreme for my taste. I am very conservative on some issues and very liberal on others.

  31. Moon-howler

    Sign stealing is going on all over the place. To me, it is theft, regardless of the reason.

    A thief is a thief is a thief.

  32. Red Dawn

    “But I guess nothing surprises me in this election”

    LOL! Glad you said this from experience. I guess that means that my cram courses of giving any real time and concern about politics are not in vein.

    I went from comparing politics from this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M

    to this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oiMPKvxQzs&feature=related

    Maybe I wasted to much time on trying to figure it out.

    There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ6VT7ciR1o

    JUST KIDDING!!!!

    I wanted the excuse to say the girl in the video reminds me of Sandra Bullock.

    🙂

    Okay, carry on…..

  33. More Palin Crap:

    From AP

    —ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.—

    —In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters’ 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.–

    —The state is already reviewing nearly $17,000 in per diem payments to Palin for more than 300 nights she slept at her own home, 40 miles from her satellite office in Anchorage.–

    Full article at Yahoo News

    One more reason for me to say, “She’s an embarrassment!” And this has nothing to do with gender.

  34. MH I agree. Leave people’s things alone!

  35. TWINAD

    Censored/Hello,

    Yes, I totally agree that if I am to put up a banner supporting my candidate in an area that is 80% for “the other one”, then I WILL expect phone calls.

    I have my Obama sticker on my car, but didn’t put one on my husband’s truck. It’s his business vehicle… I figure on average, the electorate is split pretty darn close right down the middle. Why would I want to risk alienating even a small percentage of his potential clients since they may not share his wife’s preference of a candidate? Just makes common sense to me.

    As for sign stealing…I mean really, how petty are people?! I have a middle school friend living in Ellicott City. He’s had his Obama sign stolen three times already. So now he has 8 more in his garage and has resorted to taking it in at night.

    A few years ago I had a John Kerry sign in my yard and a woman who lives a few blocks from me decided to come to my house to discuss my support of Kerry, who according to her, supports the killing of unborn children! I wasn’t home, so she left me a nice long note about how I will essentially rot in hell for supporting a pro choice candidate.

  36. DB

    You know religion really, REALLY needs to be left out of this entire election. I remember growing up and being taught, in Church that it was a woman’s job to have children. I remember being taught that women who CARE about their children DO NOT work outside the home. I remember my mom who is educated and works outside the home stepped up and said “Do what you want.” I remember being a bridesmaid at my best friend’s wedding when during the ceremony the officiant said “A woman’s job is to ensure that her husband enters the kingdom of God.” I was like…..What?! She’ll be hard pressed to talk herself into heaven and now she’s responsible for him? He’s NOT responsible? Then the officiant went on about how a woman is beholden to the advice of her husband. Was this a Muslim ceremony? No. It was a Catholic one. A typical Catholic ceremony. My question is…Are liberal Catholic, educated women with children treated with respect by the Catholic community? The answer is no, NO, NO. Even in America, Catholic women are expected to be subservient, pop out lots of kids, and give up their educations (if they have them at all). It has ALL to do with gender and a “CHURCH” and the men, the men who determine the worth of women and the extent of their supposed knowledge and worth in the 21st century. Those of us us who choose to have 2 or 3 children are looked down upon. Those of us who choose to use birthcontrol are scolded, and those of us who deign to become educated AND work outside the home are snubbed. These are the Catholics that look at Palin and McCain and say “You don’t speak for me.”

  37. They aren’t moderate, The Vast Majority of Us Conservative’s and Christians don’t condone that behavior. We are really more tolerant than you would like to believe.

  38. They aren’t moderate, They are Conservative. The Vast Majority of Us Conservative’s and Christians don’t condone that behavior. We are really more tolerant than you would like to believe.
    Most Muslims share many of our Conservative Values like Respecting the Right to Life. It is Islamic Extremism that is the catalyst for all the hate.

  39. Red Dawn

    The thing that I don’t get is so many of us say that there should be a separation of church and state.

    There is NO separation in HOW we deal with politics or religion.

    It is handled with the same conviction such as boycotting, or second thoughts about SPEAKING UP!

    P.S. if Concrete4 is reading this, I tried EXTRA hard for you to understand my WRITTEN comment( without wine from a box and with NO F words) I guess you missed my confession and apology 😉

    Cheers to you anyway, as a friend told me, I may have made a mistake posting while drinking but everyone else didn’t wake up with a hangover, just as themselves. I only hope you can find the medium that I find in YOU and that is that I am right there with you about NOT being PC 🙂

    This is for you

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayF1T_CdGro

    Has it ever occurred to you that my postings maybe a code for ( in my best sixth sense voice) PEOPLE other than US?

    JUST KIDDING!

    Chill out, I am sick of the nasty too.

  40. Fontbonne

    MoonHowler, I actually found footage of Obama supporters behaving badly, but truth be told, I preferred the positive message.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – people of intellectual honesty and good will are completely capable of disagreeing without being disagreeable. When I lay my head on my pillow at night, I am next to a spouse who is 180 degrees from me, politically. Yet I could not ask for a happier home life.

    It’s all about perspective, IME.

  41. Red Dawn

    Emma,

    If you are still peeping over here-Thank you. I get you too-you see the GOOD in everything 🙂

    This is for you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QhklvfYoOI

    Didn’t you say you were a proof reader/editor? I remember you saying something about PWC Hospital.

    Anyway, cheers 🙂

  42. Red Dawn

    “They aren’t moderate, They are Conservative. The Vast Majority of Us Conservative’s and Christians don’t condone that behavior. We are really more tolerant than you would like to believe.
    Most Muslims share many of our Conservative Values like Respecting the Right to Life. It is Islamic Extremism that is the catalyst for all the hate.”

    I AGREE! This difference will ALWAYS be played out. IT is the EXTREMIST that gets the focus because it is a touchy subject.

    I say touchy subject-because it has ( whispered or loud) come down to Christianity ( a HUGE umbrella) vs Muslium/Islamic views.
    I have to honestly admit, I don’t know the difference between Muslim/Islamic?

  43. NotGregLetiecq

    Hello? Hello?!?! Did you watch this video?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHrExRHZnm0

    This is pure unadulterated hate. With the exception of “communist,” every single deranged and ignorant attack on Obama had a racial connotation, and was screamed with fiendish hatred. My God.

    Hello, I used to like McCain. I might very well have voted for him the first time I ever voted if he wasn’t out of the race in 2000. I could have been in that line with those very people. As I watched that video, I imagined myself standing among them and I would have been scared out of my wits. I’m sorry but I’m not lying, and I refuse to be marginalized for saying that.

    I already apologized for saying that they were not only hateful and racist but also white. But when you are not white, that is the scariest type of hateful and racist mob you are ever going to see. In Sudan, there are hateful and bigoted mobs as well, and they are much scarier. So the operative word was not white. The operative word was hateful, deranged, ignorant, and screaming about it with a mob mentality.

    The reason it scares me is that I look like the man that has driven them to behave this way.

    Listen, Hello, I’m going to assume you are white and ask you this question:

    If you had been in Los Angeles when that truck driver got beaten up just because he was white, would you have been afraid? I think so.

    Would the skin color of a those doing the attacking matter? Yes, it would. Because that would determine the skin color of the next person they victimize.

    So the video creeped me out just the way, if you were deep in the District and a riot broke out you would piss your pants and cry like a little baby while you ran for your life if you saw the Redskins secondary walking toward you. And you know it.

  44. Moon-howler

    Fontbonne, Why don’t you just post it down here rather than it having its own thread. I would like to see it. And you are more than welcome. As a person who has struggled with this election, I know the nasty rhetoric is not one sided.

    PWC, I didn’t write that they were moderate. I copied the text that was provided. Sorry. Why is it so important to post a label on everyone? I think labels are relative. I might see myself as a moderate while you might see me as a liberal. You might see yourself as a conservative, I might see you as reactionary. It becomes meaningless.

  45. WOW.

    You know, I thought Hello and NGL were both women for a long time. LOL! Just goes to show ya….

  46. NotGregLetiecq

    Hello is either a man or a gay woman, per his/her sexual preference.

    I am either a woman or a gay man, per mine!

  47. Moon-howler

    You all sure can tell a lot from typing 😉

  48. Red Dawn

    OMG do I pray…..in this institution ….(can’t tell sh#t from typing -but hands in the air swinging like they just don’t care. lol) I KNOW, Concrete4 you don’t understand- work with me in this analogy of 4: concrete4 or 4nonblondes.:) 4 is the common denominator

  49. Leila

    Typing, schmyping. Maybe it’s all the discussion of professional vaginas.

    Can’t believe I typed that. And here I was going to reply to Red Dawn’s issue of Muslim/Islamic.

  50. Chris

    NotGL,
    I responded back to you earlier tonight, and it got snagged in moderation. It just posted a short while ago. It’s at Chris, 21. October 2008, 18:27.

    I will give some more insight regarding the study circles. I really can’t get to that until tomorrow. I really would encourage ALL to participate. If you wouldn’t care to join us, do you happen to know any high school and/or college students that may be interested in participating? We really need the youth’s involvement.

Comments are closed.