Civitas Institute Interview: John Stirrup

This overly embellished interview has been unearthed.
It seems like Mr. Stirrup left off the neutering process. What services are illegal immigrants denied now? How has crime dropped 19%? I thought I read where it had increased.

There is so much misinformation in this interview that I am embarrassed for John Stirrup. Either he is not being honest or he honestly does not know. Someone is feeding him bad information and it is his duty to know.

Prince William County has some immigration issues. Let’s examine them honestly rather than try to impress our friends and colleagues with doing something we haven’t really done.

It sounded to me like Forked Tongue of the State.

Editor’s Note: This is a rehash of a thread posted at the end of September. I’m including my original comments.

Apparently Gainesville Supervisor – John Stirrup made an appearance in the town or Raleigh, NC to spread outright lies. One has to wonder what his true motivation are in perpetuating these lies. Here in PWC we have had a tumultuous time since the initial adoption of our ‘Immigration Resolution’ which most likely is now being marketed as ‘The Rule of Law Resolution’.

Not having been there but having heard Stirrup’s on a couple of occasions, these facts might give you a more balanced observation of what has occurred here in PWC.

PWC County Schools has 700 fewer ESOL students
** These were the forecasted numbers which haven’t come to fruition, and some neighboring jurisdictions have had a greater percentage drops than PWC without implementing any policy.

Crime Statistics dropped 20%
** Actually, the crime rate has been dropping over the past 4 years, each year by approximately 20% even during the time frame where we had the “influx of illegals”.

Hospitals are less overcrowded
** Actually, emergency room visits have remained at the same levels but we have had about 500 less uninsured births combined with losses in L&D nurses.

What I’m sure he didn’t mention.
1. We have DOUBLE the foreclosure rates of surrounding jurisdictions that supposedly have MORE of an illegal problem than we do.
2. We have lost 25-40% of our home values, again this is DOUBLE the losses of surrounding counties
3. Our program has only identified 1.6% of those arrested as ILLEGALS
4. We have had to cut vital services to fund this program like our Senior Citizen Day Center, no new tiles in our libraries, close a health clinic, and the list goes on and on…
5. According to our County’s ‘Citizen Satisfaction Survey’, minorities including Blacks now have the lowest confidence ever recorded in our Police Department which ALSO has been cut for next year. How convenient.
6. 5% of those handed over to ICE have ended up being RE-ARRESTED in our community which makes you wonder where the other 95% really are. I suspect the majority of them were simply released by ICE and are back on our streets.

Obviously, John is now taking talking points from Corey as they try to convince the residents of Durham, North Carolina to follow in our ill-conceived footsteps. Funny how he outright LIES about emergency room visits even after receiving a report to the contrary. And, again, those crime stats being touted as if they actually had some sort of significance.

Anti-BVBL Traffic Stats Steadily Increasing

Not sure what it all means, but definitely the number of unique visitors is steadily increasing. It isn’t even the middle of the month and it appears we could add an additional 1,000 unique visitors over last month’s numbers. By the way, that would be the greatest single month increase since our inception!

Congratulations to Moon-howler and all our regular contributors. Undoubtedly we have an intelligent and considerate forum which is already exceeding traffic from blogs that have been around for many years.

Rumors Abound About Banned Words in Arizona

It has been rumored that Arizona’s Supreme Court Justice has enforced the request of Los Abogados, the Arizona Hispanic Bar Association, to ban the use of certain words during trials and hearings. Los Abogados contends that the banned words are inflammatory and create perceptions of prejudice and bias.

Other news sources at WTAR correct that rumor by stating that Arizona State Supreme Court Justice Ruth McGregor forwarded the request to various agencies within the Arizona court system.

Reports that the words “illegal” and “alien” have been banned from Arizona court rooms are false, according to an Arizona Supreme Court official.
“That is not true,” said Car Gerchick, communications director for the court. “Those words have not been banned from Arizona courtrooms.”
“A letter was sent in from an organization, a local legal organization, asking a court to essentially ban the use of those words.”
Gerchick said Chief Justice Ruth McGregor’s responded to the group, identified as Los Abogados, and told them she would share the request with the legal community and that no decision has been made.
“Under no circumstances did the Chief Justice McGregor ban any words.”

Some of the supposed banned words are: open borders advocate, illegal immigrant, illegal alien, illegals.

One source of the rumor was from ALIPAC- Americans for Legal Immigration. Why would a supposed reputable organization deliberately spread false rumors? Perhaps they wanted to stir their supporters up.

Stay tuned. This sounds like the beginning rather than the end of a story.

[Addendum 11/12/08: We have received email from
Cari Gerchick, Esq.
Communications Director
Arizona Supreme Court

She has clarified that “the Chief Justice of the Arizona Supreme Court did not ban any words from the court system. Any reports to the contrary are false.”

I assume this ends any controversy and thanks you Ms. Gerchick for the clarification.]

A Venerable Veterans Day to All

This morning I combed through many videos that were Veterans Day tributes. While the one posted is long, I chose it because of the linking the past to the present.

WWII veterans are dying at the rate of over 1000 per day. Many never lived to see the completion of the WWII Memorial in Washington, DC. What a tragedy that it took 60 years to honor the people of that generation. It is perhaps the most beautiful memorial I have ever seen but it was too long getting here.

If you know a vet from the WWII era, find out all you can. Their stories are fascinating. I consider the women of that era vets also. Many of them worked as civilians in the war effort. Their contributions were no less.

Veterans Day does not have to stop at midnight tonight. A beautiful fall weekend trip might include a trip to Bedford, Virginia, down past Roanoke.

The National D-Day Memorial is right here in our state. I am ashamed to admit I have never been to Bedford to show my gratitude to this town who lost the greatest amount of young men per capital than any other jurisdiction in the United States.

Bedford is home to the National D-Day Memorial. (despite the “National” in its name, the memorial is owned and operated by a Non-governmental, non-profit, education foundation). The United States Congress warranted that this memorial would be the nation’s D-Day Memorial and President Bill Clinton authorized this effort in September 1996. President George W. Bush dedicated this memorial as the nation’s D-Day memorial on June 6, 2001. Bedford lost more residents per capita in the Normandy landings than any other American community. Nineteen soldiers from Bedford, whose 1944 population was about 3,200, were killed on D-Day. Three other Bedford soldiers died later in the Normandy campaign. Proportionally this community suffered the nation’s severest D-Day losses

Thanks to Wiki for the above blurb.

For more information:
The National D-Day Memorial Foundation


Veterans Day Salute

On this Veterans Day 2008, we salute to our veterans, both past and present. This article while over a decade old shows the contributions made by immigrants.

A Veteran’s Day Remembrance: Immigrant Medal of Honor Recipients
by Stuart Anderson

Stuart Anderson is director of trade and immigration studies at the Cato Institute.

November 4, 1996

As Veteran’s Day approaches, the time has come to pay tribute to those who have given their lives to this country, though they were not born in this country. Immigrants have received the Medal of Honor in every war since the medal was first established. To receive it, a recipient must risk his life, the bravery of his act must be considered beyond the call of duty and distinguished from other acts, and at least two eyewitnesses must have observed the act and provide incontestable evidence that it occurred.

More than 20 percent (over 700) of the Congressional Medal of Honor recipients in U.S. wars have been immigrants. As the official guide to recipients notes, “Those who have received the Medal of Honor since it was established in 1861 as the nation’s highest decoration are as different as the melting pot population of our country.”

Vietnam: At the age of 29, Laszlo Rabel was the leader of Team Delta, 74th Infantry Detachment. Rabel, a staff sergeant, had immigrated to the United States from Budapest, Hungary, and entered the service in Minnesota. He was leading his men in reconnaissance when enemy movement was detected. His team started to leave the area when suddenly a grenade landed in the middle of the team. Without hesitation, Rabel threw himself on the grenade, covering it with his body and absorbing the explosion. He lost his life but saved those whom he had led on the field of battle.

Korea: Lieutenant John Koelsch, a London-born immigrant, flew a helicopter as part of a Navy helicopter rescue unit during the Korean War. He had entered the service in Los Angeles but on the evening of July 3, 1951, he found himself on the Korean peninsula with darkness fast approaching. Word came that the North Koreans had shot down a U.S. marine aviator and that the man was trapped deep in hostile territory amid mountainous terrain. John Koelsch volunteered to rescue him.

As he descended beneath the clouds to search for the aviator the enemy fired on him. After being hit, Koelsch kept going until he found the downed pilot, who had suffered serious burns. A burst of enemy fire struck the helicopter causing it to crash into the side of the mountain. Koelsch quickly helped his crew and the downed pilot out of the wreckage. He led the men out of the area, barely escaping the enemy troops. For nine days they were on the run until the North Koreans finally captured them. During questioning, John Koelsch refused to reveal information. He died at the hands of his interrogators.

World War II: Marcario Garcia, born in Mexico, was 24 years old when near Grosshau, Germany, he found his company pinned down by the heavy machine gun fire of Nazi troops and by an artillery and mortar barrage. Though wounded and in pain, he refused to be evacuated. Instead, he crawled forward, all alone, and lobbed hand grenades into the enemy’s emplacement. He singlehandedly assaulted the position and destroyed the gun.

A short time later when another German machine gun started firing, back toward the German position he went. Alone, he again stormed the enemy, destroyed the gun, killed three German soldiers and captured four prisoners, helping to save his company.

World War I: In France, September 1918, U.S. Army Private Michael Valente found his company facing withering enemy machine gun fire. Nonetheless, Valente and another volunteer rushed forward into the enemy nest, where they killed two, captured five, and silenced the gun.

Valente saw another enemy nest close by that was pouring “deadly fire” on American soldiers. He and his fellow soldier assaulted that position as well, silencing that gun, too. They then jumped into a trench, killed two German soldiers and captured 16 others. Despite what the citation calls “conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity” and “utter disregard of his own personal danger,” Valente was not killed.

Michael Valente, born in Cassino, Italy, saved the lives of many American soldiers that day. Three years later, Congress passed the first national origins quotas under the theory that Italians and other southern Europeans were genetically inferior to native-born Americans and, therefore, should be kept out of the country.

Today some may still be concerned that immigrants do not share a commitment to defending America. These new concerns are as misplaced as the old. For as has always been the case, the evidence is that immigrants are as willing as natives to support the nation’s defense needs and, if necessary, to give their lives for their country.