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	<title>Comments on: ACLU Sues Mississippi School That Canceled Prom Rather Than Let Lesbian Couple Attend</title>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Rez.  100%

I am most impressed that her father is standing by her side.  That is important.  So many parents have such a difficult time grappling any time their child doesn&#039;t comform to the norm.  

I expect going back to school will be miserable for her.  People really should be allowed to be themselves unless they harm others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Rez.  100%</p>
<p>I am most impressed that her father is standing by her side.  That is important.  So many parents have such a difficult time grappling any time their child doesn&#8217;t comform to the norm.  </p>
<p>I expect going back to school will be miserable for her.  People really should be allowed to be themselves unless they harm others.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolfie, you asked if I have an opinion about it.  As I think you know, I don&#039;t try to judge people especially about their activities unless it affects me or others negatively.  My God did not grant me the authority to make a judgement.  

What is this poor girl doing to others?  Not a thing.  By the way, she is a poor girl not because of herself but for what people have done to her.

It saddens me when people are not allowed to be true to themselves even if I don&#039;t agree with their lifestyle for myself.  What harm is she doing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolfie, you asked if I have an opinion about it.  As I think you know, I don&#8217;t try to judge people especially about their activities unless it affects me or others negatively.  My God did not grant me the authority to make a judgement.  </p>
<p>What is this poor girl doing to others?  Not a thing.  By the way, she is a poor girl not because of herself but for what people have done to her.</p>
<p>It saddens me when people are not allowed to be true to themselves even if I don&#8217;t agree with their lifestyle for myself.  What harm is she doing?</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes Marin, I was asking you.  Sorry not directed.  You said you were to the left of Liberty Counsel..maybe.  I had never felt you were coming in from a religious point of view like they are.  re culture warrior

Actually I thought you were siding with the girl.  Not sure why.  

I don&#039;t think I said 
&#039;if you have it flaunt it. &#039;  That would be very un-me and I feel 180 degrees the opposite.  The only reason I would have said that would have been referring to that attitude, 

I think anyone should be able to wear a tux.  I don&#039;t see that as disruptive.  A cellophane dress, NO.  Tux yes.  

I expect that someone will sponsor a private prom for the kids. Hopefully it will be someone who includes this young woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes Marin, I was asking you.  Sorry not directed.  You said you were to the left of Liberty Counsel..maybe.  I had never felt you were coming in from a religious point of view like they are.  re culture warrior</p>
<p>Actually I thought you were siding with the girl.  Not sure why.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I said<br />
&#8216;if you have it flaunt it. &#8216;  That would be very un-me and I feel 180 degrees the opposite.  The only reason I would have said that would have been referring to that attitude, </p>
<p>I think anyone should be able to wear a tux.  I don&#8217;t see that as disruptive.  A cellophane dress, NO.  Tux yes.  </p>
<p>I expect that someone will sponsor a private prom for the kids. Hopefully it will be someone who includes this young woman.</p>
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		<title>By: marinm</title>
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		<dc:creator>marinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-76938&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Moon-howler  &lt;/a&gt; 

We&#039;re you asking me or Rez if we&#039;re cultural warriors?  I doubt the question was related to me because all my posts have been neutral on the topic.

As for my personal view?  I think she should be able to goto the dance/prom if she conforms to wearing something that doesn&#039;t politicize the event.  If she wears a dress or pant suit?  Score.  She can go.  If she wants to wear something else - the school should stand strong.

In another thread we spoke about disciplinary problems at school and I remember one comment about &#039;if you have it, flaunt it&#039;.  I disagree.  Public schools have dress codes to maintain discipline and control of the student body - such controls do not violate 1A rights of the student body.

So, I think she should be able to go to prom and go with her girlfriend and that she should compromise by wearing approrpiate attire.  Any activities during the party that would equally get a hetro couple kicked out should be applied.

But, I also hope that neither party compromises and this goes to court and 6 years later we find out how the Justices rule.  :)

Didn&#039;t expect I&#039;d side with the girl, did you?  8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-76938" rel="nofollow">@Moon-howler  </a> </p>
<p>We&#8217;re you asking me or Rez if we&#8217;re cultural warriors?  I doubt the question was related to me because all my posts have been neutral on the topic.</p>
<p>As for my personal view?  I think she should be able to goto the dance/prom if she conforms to wearing something that doesn&#8217;t politicize the event.  If she wears a dress or pant suit?  Score.  She can go.  If she wants to wear something else &#8211; the school should stand strong.</p>
<p>In another thread we spoke about disciplinary problems at school and I remember one comment about &#8216;if you have it, flaunt it&#8217;.  I disagree.  Public schools have dress codes to maintain discipline and control of the student body &#8211; such controls do not violate 1A rights of the student body.</p>
<p>So, I think she should be able to go to prom and go with her girlfriend and that she should compromise by wearing approrpiate attire.  Any activities during the party that would equally get a hetro couple kicked out should be applied.</p>
<p>But, I also hope that neither party compromises and this goes to court and 6 years later we find out how the Justices rule.  <img src='http://www.moonhowlings.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t expect I&#8217;d side with the girl, did you?  <img src='http://www.moonhowlings.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Captain Idiot-Face</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Idiot-Face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-76938&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-76938&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Moon-howler&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
Do you consider yourself a cultural warrior?  
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Moon, quit trying to squelch dialogue by affixing dirty little names to things.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-76938" rel="nofollow">Moon-howler</a> :</strong><br />
Do you consider yourself a cultural warrior?
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<p>Moon, quit trying to squelch dialogue by affixing dirty little names to things.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rez, we probably should.  I just remember bits and pieces of things.  I hope this isn&#039;t pre-senility.

What is your opinion of this situation?  What should the school do at this point?  Do you think they should have told her she couldn&#039;t come to the dance in the first place?

Here is my one and only concern:  When I see the interview I see a well behaved girl who is doing the right thing.  However, what if she is one of these kids who wants to always prove a point and who the school knows will disrupt the dance?  What if her real demeanor and her I&#039;m on TV demeanor are different?

Not saying they are.  I just always like to hold a little reserve out.  

At any rate, even if she is a nasty little so and so, I don&#039;t think she can be kept from the dance except for unrelated social or academic reasons.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rez, we probably should.  I just remember bits and pieces of things.  I hope this isn&#8217;t pre-senility.</p>
<p>What is your opinion of this situation?  What should the school do at this point?  Do you think they should have told her she couldn&#8217;t come to the dance in the first place?</p>
<p>Here is my one and only concern:  When I see the interview I see a well behaved girl who is doing the right thing.  However, what if she is one of these kids who wants to always prove a point and who the school knows will disrupt the dance?  What if her real demeanor and her I&#8217;m on TV demeanor are different?</p>
<p>Not saying they are.  I just always like to hold a little reserve out.  </p>
<p>At any rate, even if she is a nasty little so and so, I don&#8217;t think she can be kept from the dance except for unrelated social or academic reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you consider yourself a cultural warrior?  

I hate seeing the money spent on it and the kids to do without a prom while this is duked out in court.  Other than that, this is as good of a case to go to court as the next one.

What is your personal opinion?  I think I have stated mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you consider yourself a cultural warrior?  </p>
<p>I hate seeing the money spent on it and the kids to do without a prom while this is duked out in court.  Other than that, this is as good of a case to go to court as the next one.</p>
<p>What is your personal opinion?  I think I have stated mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-76916&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-76916&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Moon-howler&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
Indeed they do!
Yes, actresses (sorry Meryl Streep) do occassionally wear tuxes.  I seem to remember Demi Moore in one.  
Rez, we make a good pair today.  We both remember part of something.
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Maybe we should collaborate before either of us posts. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="#commentbody-76916"><p>
<strong><a href="#comment-76916" rel="nofollow">Moon-howler</a> :</strong><br />
Indeed they do!<br />
Yes, actresses (sorry Meryl Streep) do occassionally wear tuxes.  I seem to remember Demi Moore in one.<br />
Rez, we make a good pair today.  We both remember part of something.
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<p>Maybe we should collaborate before either of us posts. <img src='http://www.moonhowlings.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: marinm</title>
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		<dc:creator>marinm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I may be to the left of that group. Maybe. 

I want to see this case in court - I think it would be good for both sides of the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I may be to the left of that group. Maybe. </p>
<p>I want to see this case in court &#8211; I think it would be good for both sides of the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marin, why didn&#039;t you just drive a stake through my heart?  ARGGGHHHH  another one of those groups.  I had never heard of Liberty Counsel, or at least I don&#039;t think I have ever heard of them.  Is this Falwell&#039;s organization? :roll:

Why can&#039;t people just stick to their own families?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marin, why didn&#8217;t you just drive a stake through my heart?  ARGGGHHHH  another one of those groups.  I had never heard of Liberty Counsel, or at least I don&#8217;t think I have ever heard of them.  Is this Falwell&#8217;s organization? <img src='http://www.moonhowlings.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t people just stick to their own families?</p>
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