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		<title>By: Gainesville Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.moonhowlings.net/index.php/2010/03/18/open-thread-31710/comment-page-1/#comment-77841</link>
		<dc:creator>Gainesville Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77792&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rez &lt;/a&gt; 
Thanks for posting that  - those were all really funny (speaking as a fellow aging baby boomer).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-77792" rel="nofollow">@Rez </a><br />
Thanks for posting that  &#8211; those were all really funny (speaking as a fellow aging baby boomer).</p>
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		<title>By: Gainesville Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gainesville Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-77822&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77822&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Moon-howler&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
My favorite is Fifty Ways to lose your Liver  
(in keeping with the topic)
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I like that one too - given that I just turned 50 almost a year ago.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-77822" rel="nofollow">Moon-howler</a> :</strong><br />
My favorite is Fifty Ways to lose your Liver<br />
(in keeping with the topic)
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<p>I like that one too &#8211; given that I just turned 50 almost a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Gainesville Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gainesville Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to also say, when you take out competition and alternatives, and don&#039;t give people choices, that&#039;s bad. That to me is what a single payer plan represents, if indeed the idea is the doctors would like it for all insured. And I see how they would - it would be just one set of paperwork to fill out no matter who the patient is, and one place to deal with. It probably would save a lot of their time. But I see bad things too, as in my case, I have the choice of several insurance plans from my employer. Each year, if I so choose, I could switch insurance plans. Now, I haven&#039;t done that, or felt the need to, but it&#039;s nice to know the option is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to also say, when you take out competition and alternatives, and don&#8217;t give people choices, that&#8217;s bad. That to me is what a single payer plan represents, if indeed the idea is the doctors would like it for all insured. And I see how they would &#8211; it would be just one set of paperwork to fill out no matter who the patient is, and one place to deal with. It probably would save a lot of their time. But I see bad things too, as in my case, I have the choice of several insurance plans from my employer. Each year, if I so choose, I could switch insurance plans. Now, I haven&#8217;t done that, or felt the need to, but it&#8217;s nice to know the option is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Gainesville Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gainesville Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;#commentbody-77823&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-77823&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Moon-howler&lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;
I thought the single payer plan was just for the uninsured, not for the insured?
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The way I read it (and maybe I misinterpreted what someone wrote) they were saying the doctors were in favor of a single payer plan for all insured. Maybe I&#039;m misinterpreting something though. I hope I am, actually - and that would just be for those currently uninsured. That would be much more acceptable to me personally. However, even then, I read the theory that some companies might opt to not offer insurance as it would be cheaper for them to pay something to the federal gov&#039;t, and then all their employees would essentially be forced into the gov&#039;t plan. Although, I wouldn&#039;t expect my company to do something like that. 

However, the idea of a single payer plan for all insured, well that&#039;s just not good, if you ask me. Maybe good for the doctors, but not good for the patients. Or at least not good for many patients, I think.</description>
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<strong><a href="#comment-77823" rel="nofollow">Moon-howler</a> :</strong><br />
I thought the single payer plan was just for the uninsured, not for the insured?
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<p>The way I read it (and maybe I misinterpreted what someone wrote) they were saying the doctors were in favor of a single payer plan for all insured. Maybe I&#8217;m misinterpreting something though. I hope I am, actually &#8211; and that would just be for those currently uninsured. That would be much more acceptable to me personally. However, even then, I read the theory that some companies might opt to not offer insurance as it would be cheaper for them to pay something to the federal gov&#8217;t, and then all their employees would essentially be forced into the gov&#8217;t plan. Although, I wouldn&#8217;t expect my company to do something like that. </p>
<p>However, the idea of a single payer plan for all insured, well that&#8217;s just not good, if you ask me. Maybe good for the doctors, but not good for the patients. Or at least not good for many patients, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don, you are welcome.  Actually, I like &quot;On the Commode Again&quot;.  I can hum it in my mind. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, you are welcome.  Actually, I like &#8220;On the Commode Again&#8221;.  I can hum it in my mind. <img src='http://www.moonhowlings.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the single payer plan was just for the uninsured, not for the insured?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the single payer plan was just for the uninsured, not for the insured?</p>
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		<title>By: Moon-howler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moon-howler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite is Fifty Ways to lose your Liver ;)

(in keeping with the topic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite is Fifty Ways to lose your Liver <img src='http://www.moonhowlings.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(in keeping with the topic)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rez.  After the day I just had, I needed that laugh....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rez.  After the day I just had, I needed that laugh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some levity in case you haven&#039;t seen this--

Some of the artists of the 60&#039;s are revising their hits with new lyrics to accommodate aging baby boomers who can remember doing the &quot;Limbo&quot; as if it were yesterday .  

They  include:

Bobby Darin ---Splish, Splash, I Was Havin&#039; A Flash

Herman&#039;s Hermits ---Mrs. Brown, You&#039;ve Got A Lovely Walker

The Bee Gees -- -How Can You Mend A Broken Hip?

Roberta Flack---The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face 

Johnny Nash ---I Can&#039;t See Clearly Now. 

Paul Simon--- Fifty Ways To Lose Your Liver 

Procol Harem--- A Whiter Shade Of Hair 

Leo Sayer ---You Make Me Feel Like Napping 

The Temptations ---Papa&#039;s Got A Kidney Stone

Abba---Denture Queen 
&quot;You haven&#039;t seen my teeth have you Wilma? 

Tony Orlando --- Knock 3 Times On The Ceiling
If You Hear Me Fall 

Helen Reddy ---I Am Woman, Hear Me Snore

Leslie Gore---It&#039;s My Procedure, And I&#039;ll Cry If I Want To

And Last but NOT least...

Willie Nelson ---On the Commode Again


Just for you, Wolfie and all of us ancients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some levity in case you haven&#8217;t seen this&#8211;</p>
<p>Some of the artists of the 60&#8242;s are revising their hits with new lyrics to accommodate aging baby boomers who can remember doing the &#8220;Limbo&#8221; as if it were yesterday .  </p>
<p>They  include:</p>
<p>Bobby Darin &#8212;Splish, Splash, I Was Havin&#8217; A Flash</p>
<p>Herman&#8217;s Hermits &#8212;Mrs. Brown, You&#8217;ve Got A Lovely Walker</p>
<p>The Bee Gees &#8212; -How Can You Mend A Broken Hip?</p>
<p>Roberta Flack&#8212;The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face </p>
<p>Johnny Nash &#8212;I Can&#8217;t See Clearly Now. </p>
<p>Paul Simon&#8212; Fifty Ways To Lose Your Liver </p>
<p>Procol Harem&#8212; A Whiter Shade Of Hair </p>
<p>Leo Sayer &#8212;You Make Me Feel Like Napping </p>
<p>The Temptations &#8212;Papa&#8217;s Got A Kidney Stone</p>
<p>Abba&#8212;Denture Queen<br />
&#8220;You haven&#8217;t seen my teeth have you Wilma? </p>
<p>Tony Orlando &#8212; Knock 3 Times On The Ceiling<br />
If You Hear Me Fall </p>
<p>Helen Reddy &#8212;I Am Woman, Hear Me Snore</p>
<p>Leslie Gore&#8212;It&#8217;s My Procedure, And I&#8217;ll Cry If I Want To</p>
<p>And Last but NOT least&#8230;</p>
<p>Willie Nelson &#8212;On the Commode Again</p>
<p>Just for you, Wolfie and all of us ancients.</p>
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		<title>By: Poor Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poor Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - Just received the latest edition of the Manassas Observor,
a new twice a month newspaper that is a worthwhile read for
local news and features.   On the front page is an article 
headlined &quot;Nokesville director bringing Hollywood to 
Old Town Manassas&quot;.  Sail Away Productions&#039; website proudly
claims it is the premier film studio in Nokeville and it is doing a
musical feature called &quot;Bright Lights and Promises&quot; in Manassas
and they are looking for more extras.  In the past SAP has done
several award winning horror movies - maybe their plan is to
finish the musical and head down to the budget hearings at 
City Hall - scary stuff.
    (The  Big Manassas Movie was My Son John (1952)  that was 
filmed, in part,  near the Old Town PO and featured Helen Hayes,
Van Heflin and Robert Walker - but was widely reviewed as 
comically awful.  It was the story of a mother who discovered her son
was a closet ---communist).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; Just received the latest edition of the Manassas Observor,<br />
a new twice a month newspaper that is a worthwhile read for<br />
local news and features.   On the front page is an article<br />
headlined &#8220;Nokesville director bringing Hollywood to<br />
Old Town Manassas&#8221;.  Sail Away Productions&#8217; website proudly<br />
claims it is the premier film studio in Nokeville and it is doing a<br />
musical feature called &#8220;Bright Lights and Promises&#8221; in Manassas<br />
and they are looking for more extras.  In the past SAP has done<br />
several award winning horror movies &#8211; maybe their plan is to<br />
finish the musical and head down to the budget hearings at<br />
City Hall &#8211; scary stuff.<br />
    (The  Big Manassas Movie was My Son John (1952)  that was<br />
filmed, in part,  near the Old Town PO and featured Helen Hayes,<br />
Van Heflin and Robert Walker &#8211; but was widely reviewed as<br />
comically awful.  It was the story of a mother who discovered her son<br />
was a closet &#8212;communist).</p>
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