Comments on: Judge Grants Injunction Blocking Parts of AZ Law

By: NoVA Scout

NoVA Scout — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:52:16 +0000

Cargo squid: what “weak argument” are you referring to? The constitutional argument against the Arizona law strikes me as extremely strong. That was what the United States advanced. It may be you were referring to a comment here.

By: Moon-howler

Moon-howler — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 04:07:58 +0000

Thanks for posting the ICE information. I didn’t see it when you posted it before. I also see people werent totally truthful with us here about it. there was a lot of really confusing information put out. I suspect that was intentional.

I just don’t think of neo-con and liberal in the same sentence. As for Palin, I am assuming Moe was being sarcastic.

By: cargosquid

cargosquid — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:22:44 +0000

If this law is shot down, especially with such a weak argument, there will be citizens that will be willing to do things about it anyway. People on the border are fed up. If the feds state that no one will be allowed to enforce the law, then there will be violence as that will be all that’s left.

By: cargosquid

cargosquid — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:32:43 +0000

To be a “neo” con, one must have been a liberal. Palin may be many things, but, neocon is not one of them.

By: cargosquid

cargosquid — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:14:18 +0000

@Moon-howler
Arizona is already in the 287g program. I even posted a comment in an earlier thread about which counties were involved. Here’s the list of “partners.”

http://www.ice.gov/partners/287g/Section287_g.htm

The new law just has law enforcement enforcing federal law.

By: Moon-howler

Moon-howler — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:59:10 +0000

Interesting comment on neo-cons. I am still trying to figure out how they are the children of Vietnam-war-supporting Democrats. Wolfowitz? Cheney? Billy Crystal? They are all too old.

Moe’s credentionals are good enough for me.

And no more bad bathroom humor.

By: Moon-howler

Moon-howler — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:29:28 +0000

@Slowpoke

There is a great deal of AZ that is not on the border. Regardless of what they have done for years, everyone has to follow protocol. Is this where I start humming Rule of Law?

The feds have 287g and Safe Communities in place so that they work with the states. It is a sharing of responsibility. AZ can’t go by the laws that are in place. It had to thumb its nose at the existing laws and procedures. So much for rule of law.

By: Slowpoke Rodriguez

Slowpoke Rodriguez — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:25:11 +0000

Morris Davis :
Slowpoke Rodriguez :I do love the way libs talk about the constitution like they understand it.
I refudiate that comment, to paraphrase neo-con intellectual savant Sarah Palin. If calling a federal judge a bonehead is what passes for constitutional understanding on the tea bag circuit then I defer to your mastery of the Constitution; after all, don’t neo-cons think they own it?

You may refudiate all you like, as long as you wipe afterwards. NeoCons, who are mostly born of the Vietnam-War-supporting Democrats, don't know the Constitution either.

By: Slowpoke Rodriguez

Slowpoke Rodriguez — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:21:50 +0000

and YES, I’ve spent a lot of time in AZ, Cochise Co to be exact. And BTW, there’s not much to see or do in Tombstone.

By: Slowpoke Rodriguez

Slowpoke Rodriguez — Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:20:44 +0000

AZ has been cooperating with Border Patrol LONG before there was a 287g program. The police in AZ and Border agents mostly know each other and typically when the cops catch an illegal, they’ve just always handed them over to Border Patrol. Why do 287g when you’ve been doing 287g for years?