Comments on: The Supremes and the deadbeats http://www.moonhowlings.net/index.php/2011/07/02/the-supremes-and-the-deadbeats/ A Place for Civil Debate: not your typical ideologue blog Fri, 18 May 2012 05:22:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lafayette http://www.moonhowlings.net/index.php/2011/07/02/the-supremes-and-the-deadbeats/comment-page-1/#comment-118212 Lafayette Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:18:59 +0000 http://www.moonhowlings.net/?p=14435#comment-118212 Moon, Please, edit above.. In my case if the deadbeat had stuck around and *NOT* threatened my life the child support would have been amended to a much lower amount, because my daughter was no longer attending day care. Moon,
Please, edit above..
In my case if the deadbeat had stuck around and *NOT* threatened my life the child support would have been amended to a much lower amount, because my daughter was no longer attending day care.

]]> By: Lafayette http://www.moonhowlings.net/index.php/2011/07/02/the-supremes-and-the-deadbeats/comment-page-1/#comment-118210 Lafayette Wed, 06 Jul 2011 13:00:50 +0000 http://www.moonhowlings.net/?p=14435#comment-118210 We can't forget those deadbeat moms either. In fact, I have to deal with one of those from SC. This woman gets a decent disability check and doesn't want to pay $200 a month, but had no problem spending tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees, thus forcing our side to do the same. This same woman NEVER got her support one day late. She probably still collects money from SS for the child that doesn't live with her. I believe this is ripping off the system. My, my how things change when the table has been turned. This is money that went to fat cat lawyers, that could have gone to benefit the kids. It's very hard to get people to sit in the same room during divorce and/or custody issues, let alone agreeing on something without lawyers. This is a crying shame, because it's the kids that loose. Child support can be revisited and amended due to loss of job, illness, etc., but the problem is that means hiring lawyers and going back to court. That will cost you more than make some sort of arrangement with the other party for support. Then there are those that choose to stay on the run. That's a shame for the child because they are often left feeling like the MIA parent doesn't love them anymore. I can certainly understand how a child would feel this way, as they don't understand that some feel it's more important to hate the ex, than love and participate in their child's life. In my case if the deadbeat had stuck around and threatened my life the child support would have been amended to a much lower amount, because my daughter was no longer attending day care. My dad had a similar situation to Mr. Moon's. He had sole custody of his daughter in the late 50's to the late 60's. He never got one dime, nor did he expect to. The system is far more equitable these days for men. However, there are men that would beg to differ on that one. We can’t forget those deadbeat moms either. In fact, I have to deal with one of those from SC. This woman gets a decent disability check and doesn’t want to pay $200 a month, but had no problem spending tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees, thus forcing our side to do the same. This same woman NEVER got her support one day late. She probably still collects money from SS for the child that doesn’t live with her. I believe this is ripping off the system. My, my how things change when the table has been turned. This is money that went to fat cat lawyers, that could have gone to benefit the kids. It’s very hard to get people to sit in the same room during divorce and/or custody issues, let alone agreeing on something without lawyers. This is a crying shame, because it’s the kids that loose.

Child support can be revisited and amended due to loss of job, illness, etc., but the problem is that means hiring lawyers and going back to court. That will cost you more than make some sort of arrangement with the other party for support. Then there are those that choose to stay on the run. That’s a shame for the child because they are often left feeling like the MIA parent doesn’t love them anymore. I can certainly understand how a child would feel this way, as they don’t understand that some feel it’s more important to hate the ex, than love and participate in their child’s life. In my case if the deadbeat had stuck around and threatened my life the child support would have been amended to a much lower amount, because my daughter was no longer attending day care.

My dad had a similar situation to Mr. Moon’s. He had sole custody of his daughter in the late 50′s to the late 60′s. He never got one dime, nor did he expect to. The system is far more equitable these days for men. However, there are men that would beg to differ on that one.

]]> By: Moon-howler http://www.moonhowlings.net/index.php/2011/07/02/the-supremes-and-the-deadbeats/comment-page-1/#comment-118070 Moon-howler Sun, 03 Jul 2011 17:29:44 +0000 http://www.moonhowlings.net/?p=14435#comment-118070 Marin, I had to come back to revisit this issue. I don't think sweeping generalizations can be made. I personally know 2 women who have raised their daughters on their own. No child support. Why? I think the women decided that they would rather just do it on their own than be bothered with a jackass. Both were in other relationships and sacrificed so they didn't have to go after the 'fathers of the year.' In my own case, my husband paid child support until he was 'awarded' his children. (That award came in the form of " you have a week to come pick them up or I will put them in an orphanage.") He had been paying about 25% of his gross income in child support. Once he had custody, he never received one penny. All things financial were our responsibility. The moral of this story is 'be selective who you have children by' I suppose. Marin, I had to come back to revisit this issue. I don’t think sweeping generalizations can be made. I personally know 2 women who have raised their daughters on their own. No child support. Why? I think the women decided that they would rather just do it on their own than be bothered with a jackass. Both were in other relationships and sacrificed so they didn’t have to go after the ‘fathers of the year.’

In my own case, my husband paid child support until he was ‘awarded’ his children. (That award came in the form of ” you have a week to come pick them up or I will put them in an orphanage.”) He had been paying about 25% of his gross income in child support. Once he had custody, he never received one penny. All things financial were our responsibility.

The moral of this story is ‘be selective who you have children by’ I suppose.

]]> By: Moon-howler http://www.moonhowlings.net/index.php/2011/07/02/the-supremes-and-the-deadbeats/comment-page-1/#comment-118064 Moon-howler Sun, 03 Jul 2011 16:14:50 +0000 http://www.moonhowlings.net/?p=14435#comment-118064 I am not sure the system is all that stacked against men. Women who have been hit with child support would probably beg to differ. I will say that I believe things have become more equitable between men and women than they were several decades ago. I would say some men fear commitment because it is part of their genetic make up until they mature. Operative word there is 'some.' I am not sure the system is all that stacked against men. Women who have been hit with child support would probably beg to differ. I will say that I believe things have become more equitable between men and women than they were several decades ago.

I would say some men fear commitment because it is part of their genetic make up until they mature. Operative word there is ‘some.’

]]> By: marinm http://www.moonhowlings.net/index.php/2011/07/02/the-supremes-and-the-deadbeats/comment-page-1/#comment-118060 marinm Sun, 03 Jul 2011 14:42:30 +0000 http://www.moonhowlings.net/?p=14435#comment-118060 Providing a lawyer to him would've put his wife (who didn't have a lawyer) at a disadvantage in the proceedings. Also his kid(s). On a different note. With how the system seems stacked against men is there any wonder why men fear commitment? (that'll get me thrown off the blog!! hehe) Providing a lawyer to him would’ve put his wife (who didn’t have a lawyer) at a disadvantage in the proceedings.

Also his kid(s).

On a different note. With how the system seems stacked against men is there any wonder why men fear commitment? (that’ll get me thrown off the blog!! hehe)

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