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January 16th, 2013

redbird      These guys tend to be psychotic.  Perhaps narcissistic is a better word.  Some male cardinals continually dance in front of reflective surfaces.  We have one here to dances in front of the car mirrors, the stainless steel grill, and windows.  He has also been known to fly into windows.  I had to put stuff animals up there to scare him off.

Do robins still migrate south?  How about mockingbirds?  I think some robins hang back.  I think I saw one about a week ago.

Monday Morning- PWC Schools have a 2 hour delay.



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  1. Censored bybvbl
    January 16th, 2013 at 12:40 | #1

    I’ve seen Robins and Bluebirds (both part of the thrush family) here in the winter. I don’t know whether they’re the same birds that we see in spring or migrants from farther north. Bluebirds will sometimes do the same crazy antics in front of car mirrors as Cardinals. I don’t know about Mockingbirds since we’re in too wooded an area to see them. We get catbirds instead. The Border Collie loves to chase them from bush to bush.

  2. January 16th, 2013 at 14:43 | #2

    I have a hard time telling catbirds and mockingbirds apart. I think I have both.

    I KNOW I heard a robin when I went out a frew hours ago.

  3. Censored bybvbl
    January 16th, 2013 at 15:12 | #3

    People are surprised to see Robins in winter but they must stick around or are replaced by birds who figure they’ve travelled far enough south. The bluebirds I’ve seen have been in flocks – not many single birds.
    Catbirds have the same silhouette but are darker (grey) and have a real dark cap. Ours like the nandina and mahonia for nesting. Once the leaves are off most of the shrubs and they’re visible, the dog chases them.

  4. Lyssa
    January 16th, 2013 at 20:35 | #4

    I thought this was south.

  5. Lafayette
    January 17th, 2013 at 07:59 | #5

    Seems as thought the county has a new local author. Hold your horses and put down your coffee cup, so you don’t spit on your screen. What a joke KooKinelli writing a book. Who in their right mind would pay one red cent to read his thoughts. Oh wait, the rabid Republicans will.


    • January 17th, 2013 at 09:54 | #6

      Oh dear God. Maybe he will write a porn book. ho ho ho. Maybe he will be in touch with his inner self?

      Stop me!

  6. Lafayette
    January 17th, 2013 at 10:28 | #7

    Moon-howler :Oh dear God. Maybe he will write a porn book. ho ho ho. Maybe he will be in touch with his inner self?
    Stop me!

    I can’t stop you. I’m having the same problem over here. 👿

  7. Censored bybvbl
    January 17th, 2013 at 13:47 | #8

    His book is probably destined for the cheap heap right inside B&N’s door.

  8. Steve Randolph
    January 18th, 2013 at 10:36 | #9


    Del. Scott Surovell shares his district’s new Medicaid data on his blog
    “The Dixie Pig”. Would be interesting to see the same information
    for our area.

  9. Lady Emma
    January 18th, 2013 at 17:27 | #10

    New York forgot to exempt on-duty police from the seven-bullet limit in their new gun-control law. That’s rich. You’d think they would have learned how important it is to read the bill. This is why laws should not be passed just for the sake of “doing something, anything!” and based on pure emotion and ignorance.

  10. January 18th, 2013 at 17:32 | #11

    @Lady Emma
    I saw that.

  11. Steve Randolph
    January 19th, 2013 at 12:22 | #12

    – $7 trillion- U.S. consumer and business spending directed
    by women, equivalent to China’s gross domestic product.

    – 66% -approximate amount of U.S. personal wealth controlled
    by women.

    – No. 1- where the spending clout of “boomer” women ranks in
    the U.S.

    Kathryn Karlic
    BARRON’S (1-21-2011)

    • January 19th, 2013 at 13:38 | #13

      Thanks Steve,

      American women control their own reproduction. Woe be unto those who try to change that status!!!

  12. January 19th, 2013 at 18:33 | #14

    We control our own spending on lingerie and “toys,” too. This new reality show, Double Divas, about two Georgia shopkeepers on Lifetime TV, makes me think of KKs Temptations, which has been thriving for two years now on Battle Street in Old Town Manassas.


  13. Rich
    January 20th, 2013 at 09:53 | #15

    I typically have robins around my house in old town Manassas (Grant and Mosby) during most or even all of the winter. In particular we have two large holly trees in the front yard and there are always a few days in January when perhaps at least fifty robins show up and eat all the holly berries. That occurred last week. This year they also ate the winterberries, although usually a differenct species of bird gets those berry about a month late.

    • January 20th, 2013 at 11:24 | #16

      Thanks for the update, Rich. I still have my holly berries. My next door neighbors have quite an elaborate feeding system going all the time. Do you think that is what is keeping my holly berry’s safe?

      I didn’t know they would eat holly berries but I have seen a flock of them strip a pyrocantha bush down in 15 minutes.

  14. Censored bybvbl
    January 20th, 2013 at 15:55 | #17

    Cedar Waxwings will strip a tree of berries also. Not sure which months they’re most common here.

  15. Starryflights
    January 20th, 2013 at 21:59 | #18

    Fire chief: Chaplain is 1 of 5 NM shooting victims
    By SUSAN MONTOYA BRYAN | Associated Press – 26 mins ago

    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — A 15-year-old boy remained in custody Sunday night as detectives tried to piece together what led to the shooting of five people, including three young children, who were found dead in a New Mexico home.


    Another mass shooting

  16. Lady Emma
    January 20th, 2013 at 22:10 | #19

    Moon, I’m FINALLY all caught up with Downton. It’s a fluffernutter of a show, but an addictive one!

    • January 20th, 2013 at 22:22 | #20

      I actually nodded off tonight…jolted myself awake and caught up. You have never seen anyone hit rewind so fast.

      Big Love was addictive also, as was/is Boardwalk Empire.

  17. Steve Randolph
    January 21st, 2013 at 08:50 | #21


    Remembering a great man today.

  18. January 21st, 2013 at 09:25 | #22

    Remember that Gun Appreciation Day? The one that the press didn’t cover?

    Apparently it was quite popular.


    • January 21st, 2013 at 10:09 | #23

      I saw something about it in the Washington Post, Cargo. GAD was in full swing in Annapolis, if I am not mistaken.

  19. January 21st, 2013 at 12:54 | #24

    Annapolis? Wow. Maryland is almost as bad as DC on gun control.

  20. January 21st, 2013 at 15:56 | #25

    Too funny that the president’s limo is nicknamed “the Beast.”

    When I was a teenager I had an ancient car nicknamed “The Beast.”

    Too funny. It was like a 1950 plymouth beetle back.

  21. January 21st, 2013 at 16:23 | #26

    Is it just me or is the secret service just looking old?

  22. January 21st, 2013 at 16:24 | #27

    Terry McAuliffee just shook hand with Joe Biden along the parade route. Good! Terry’s got cred!!!

  23. January 21st, 2013 at 16:52 | #28

    What a neat family the Obamas are.

    What a neat family the Bidens are.

    The reviewing stand is burning up. All the Obamas are peeling off layers…sweating. If I were president I would be telling them to turn the damn heat down. I am just me and I tell people to turn the damn heat down.

    The Obamas must not be a obnoxious as I am.

  24. January 21st, 2013 at 16:57 | #29

    @Steve Randolph

    MLK sort of got over-shadowed this year, didn’t he? I am sure he would think it was all for a good cause.

  25. January 21st, 2013 at 17:33 | #30

    Indeed – it was a day of justice, peace and righteousness – all the things he was a drum major for. The National Day of Service rocked, too — so many service events, they took place over three days, not just one.

    Only sad note, AP reports Va Senate votes 29-9 to reappoint embattled UVa rector, organizer of failed president ouster. The stated reasoning: they don’t want the Gen. Assembly to micromanage university decisions like job performance. House is up next.

  26. January 21st, 2013 at 20:54 | #31

    Oh Cindy…..I am so sorry to hear she was reaapointed. This situation was more than interference.

    The University of Virginia is worse off with her involvement.

  27. January 21st, 2013 at 21:18 | #32

    billion pixel picture of the capital with zoom in capabilities.


    Very neat!!!!

  28. January 22nd, 2013 at 07:28 | #33

    BOCS Meeting today @2 pm

    No night meeting

  29. January 22nd, 2013 at 14:04 | #34

    The Corey show is beginning.

    Watch out folks, about 20 people in the county are watching all of you all very carefully.

  30. January 22nd, 2013 at 14:26 | #35

    Great to see Mayor Parrish and Council Member Jon Way there to support a possible partnership on a new firing range with the FBI and the county. The city’s police officers have to go to Orange to use a firing range – the city doesn’t have one.

  31. January 22nd, 2013 at 15:03 | #36

    Corey is singing the praises of the new redictricting that was sneaked in yesterday. I guess so. Don’t be misled. It is a trick to regain permanent control of the State senate.

    Shame on your Corey for being such a disingenous story teller.

  32. January 22nd, 2013 at 15:04 | #37

    @Cindy Brookshire

    The County barely has one. I think only 12 of them can go at a time. It is extremely inadequate for the number of police officers who have to use it.

  33. Starryflights
    January 22nd, 2013 at 19:54 | #38

    Two suspects detained after shooting on Texas college campus
    By Erwin Seba | Reuters – 20

    HOUSTON (Reuters) – Three people were wounded, one critically, on Tuesday when gunfire erupted during an altercation between two people on a community college campus near Houston, police said, the latest in a series of shootings on U.S. college and school campuses.

    Two people “of interest” in the Lone Star College shooting were detained for questioning, including one with a student identification, according to authorities. “We are questioning them now,” Harris County Sheriff’s Office Captain W.K. Melacon told a press conference at the scene.

    Two people “of interest” in the Lone Star College shooting were detained for questioning, including one with a student identification, according to authorities. “We are questioning them now,” Harris County Sheriff’s Office Captain W.K. Melacon told a press conference at the scene.

    Authorities said the two people involved in the argument were in hospital. A maintenance worker who had been standing nearby was shot in the leg, and a woman with a student ID was taken to a hospital with a medical issue that was not a gunshot wound, they said.

    An ambulance dispatcher said his company had transported three people to local hospitals. One of them was in critical condition and the other two were in “urgent” condition, he said.
    The campus was searched and the all clear given, sheriff’s officers said. Classes were expected to resume on Wednesday.

    The shooting at the community college with some 10,000 students was the latest incident at a U.S. school since a gunman massacred 20 children and six adults in Connecticut in December.


    I guess incidents like these are just the price of freedom.

  34. Lady Emma
    January 22nd, 2013 at 20:40 | #39

    No one ever shot anyone else when they were armed with nothing more than shotguns. You almost never saw anything about shootings on the internet back then.

  35. January 22nd, 2013 at 21:43 | #40

    @Lady Emma
    Lady Emma,

    I don’t understand what you said.

    Hunters shoot each other all the time… not on purpose usually but accidentally.

  36. January 23rd, 2013 at 14:19 | #41

    Rand Paul was a real AH to Hillary. He told her he would have fired her. Maybe the people of Kentucky will fire him.

    McCain also was a jerk to her. So were a few others.

    Typical bullies. Let’s see if the house committee has better manners.

  37. January 23rd, 2013 at 14:45 | #42

    From the NYTimes:

    House Approves Three-Month Debt Limit Extension

    Avoiding an economic showdown with President Obama, the House on Wednesday passed legislation to suspend the nation’s statutory borrowing limit for three months, without including the dollar-for-dollar spending cuts that Republicans once insisted would have to be part of any debt limit bill.
    The measure, however, did include a provision that docks the pay of lawmakers if one of the chambers of Congress fails to pass a budget blueprint by April 15. That provision provided House Republicans with a rationale for giving in on the debt ceiling, at least temporarily.
    “It’s real simple: no budget, no pay,” Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio said before the measure passed by 285 to 144. More than enough Democrats joined Republicans to make up for more than 30 Republican defections.

  38. January 23rd, 2013 at 14:51 | #43

    Yep… I bet the Senate follows the law now and passes a budget.

  39. January 23rd, 2013 at 14:54 | #44

    The same guy that authored this “asinine” state bill defended Helen Dragas’ reappointment as the rector of the Board of Visitors at UVa.


    Not saying it’s okay to get “doored” but is this why the important work doesn’t get done in Richmond? Can’t they come up with a priority list and do the tough stuff first?

  40. January 23rd, 2013 at 16:10 | #45

    @Cindy Brookshire

    I was surprised that Chap Peterson defended Dragas. I am wondering how much it had to do with urging from Mark Warner.

    As for the “dooring,” It is actually a fairly serious problem in urban areas and a danger not only to cyclists but also to other drivers.

    The object is to smack a cyclist off his/her bike by slamming them with a car door. A past principal of one of the local high schools was intensely disliked and he rode all over NoVA on his bike. This bearded fellow, nick-named “Moses” was carried a bounty for being doored. I don’t know if they ever got him or not. Even my brother knew about it and he lived in Fairfax at the time.

    Maybe Moe or Andy can tell us more about the practice.

  41. January 23rd, 2013 at 18:30 | #46

    Women are finally people?

    NY times:

    Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta is lifting the military’s ban on women in combat, which will open up hundreds of thousands of additional front-line jobs to them, senior defense officials said on Wednesday.

  42. January 23rd, 2013 at 20:05 | #47

    Yep. He did it. Now…let’s see what happens. Will the Rangers be forced to take women no matter the qualification or will women be subject to the same qualifications that men are required to meet? The Marines opened up the Infantry Officer’s Training course to all female Marines. Only two female Lieutenants applied. They, along with 26 male Marines failed to complete the course. So…will the politicians soften the requirements now?

    If women are allowed into infantry units, are we ready for the reduced capability that brings?

    One Marine’s opinion: http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/get-over-it-we-are-not-all-created-equal

    She as some valid concerns.

  43. Starryflights
    January 23rd, 2013 at 21:01 | #48

    Clinton forcefully defends handling of Benghazi attack

    By Arshad Mohammed and Tabassum Zakaria | Reuters – 2 hrs 27 mins
    2 hrs 58 mins ago

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday forcefully defended her handling of the September 11 attack on the U.S. mission in the Libyan city of Benghazi and denied any effort to mislead the American people.

    The attack by armed militants that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans threatens to stain Clinton’s legacy as secretary of state and could cast a longer shadow should she decide to make a White House run in 2016.


    Clinton is absolutely right. Wtf difference does it make whether there was a protest there or not? None. Repugs are beating this dead horse for all it is worth

  44. Starryflights
    January 23rd, 2013 at 22:56 | #49

    Conservatives Have Their Worst Week Ever
    POSTED: January 23, 12:23 PM ET

    So to recap: The gun lobby’s response to Obama’s inauguration was to organize a “Gun Appreciation Day” on Martin Luther King Day that left five of their own gun-loving members accidentally shot. Then they responded to Obama’s inaugural speech by doubling down on the “elitist hypocrite” ad that earned them near-universal condemnation previously. So how could things get worse?

    Well, you could have a spokesman for Political Media, which organized “Gun Appreciation Day,” tell the Hollywood Reporter that Quentin Tarantino’s Django Unchained is the perfect argument in support of gun rights. Political Media’s Larry Ward said he’s conssidering a “What Would Django Do?” campaign as part of this new rhetorical line they’re thinking of trying to sell, particularly to the black community. The idea is, get this, that there wouldn’t have been slavery if slaves had had gun rights.

    Hey, dipshit: Before anyone allowed slaves to have guns, they would have had to have other rights, like for instance being considered human beings. Are you people completely stupid? You’d have to have hoovered more coke than even Quentin Tarantino to imagine a world where white slave owners denied black people freedom of movement, denied them education and freedom of speech and dominion over their own bodies, but then for some reason also allowed them to buy guns. Jesus Christ! The whole point of slavery is that slaves didn’t have any rights, much less the right to bear arms.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/conservatives-have-their-worst-week-ever-20130123#ixzz2IrUbky00
    Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook


  45. January 24th, 2013 at 00:27 | #50

    Clinton is absolutely right. Wtf difference does it make whether there was a protest there or not?

    One was a lie. The other the truth.

  46. January 24th, 2013 at 00:38 | #51

    Actually, the negligent shots were at GUN SHOWS, not at the Gun Appreciation Day events that occurred at capitols across the country, involving thousands of people. One problem is that people bring guns to gun shows KNOWING that they will have to unload and show clear, and don’t do it before hand. The other is that the existing rules make owners screw with their guns. Leave them in the holster.

    Maybe if the blacks had had guns, they could have broken their chains. Maybe THAT was the message, that its hard to enslave an armed populace. If they had had guns, they would not have had their other rights denied. The NRA was one of the FIRST civil rights organizations, supporting the right of black people to be armed. Perhaps, instead of crowing about slaves not having rights, maybe you can think outside of the box.

    Now, the idea of using that movie as a publicity stunt IS stupid. But, really, Taibbi? He’s a hack.

  47. Starryflights
    January 24th, 2013 at 09:32 | #52

    If the NRA was trying to win over moderates, they failed miserably with their gun-hugging events. I mean, really, these are the guys who want to patrol our schools with arms, and they can’t even handle their own weapons without shooting somebody? Come on!

  48. Starryflights
    January 24th, 2013 at 09:34 | #53

    General Dynamics blames $2 billion loss on defense cuts

    By Jim Tankersley and Marjorie Censer, Published: January 23

    One of the nation’s largest federal contractors reported a $2 billion loss Wednesday and blamed it on defense cuts, a sign that the government spending that provided the rocket fuel for the metro area’s decade-long economic expansion is now dissipating.

    General Dynamics, based in Falls Church, said it was devaluing its information technology business by $2 billion amid falling government demand. The announcement was particularly worrisome because IT contracting is the key ingredient to the metro area’s government-powered growth.


    This is austerity, folks.

  49. January 24th, 2013 at 11:31 | #54

    Prince William County Schools and City of Manassas Schools are back to playing reindeer games about opening schools during inclement weather.

    Prince William did not update their website until well after 5:20 am. The TV stations didn’t get it for quite a while after that. The notifier didn’t go out to the email recipients until after 6:30.

    I tried to find out information regarding the City after PWC announced to no avail.

    Every other jurisdiction had announced long before PWC or Manassas.

    Parents need to make plans. The further out you live, the sooner the decision needs to be announced.

    School systems- when in doubt, err on the side of caution.

  50. January 24th, 2013 at 11:32 | #55


    That is serious. I know several people who lost their jobs last fall because of looming sequestration. All worked for defense contractors.

  51. January 24th, 2013 at 22:23 | #56

    I’m sorry… please cite the source that shows that the few negligent shooters were even members of the NRA.
    So, trying to tie the NRA directly to the few guys that did this… really weak.

    On the other hand… across the nation thousands showed up in capital cities, to express support for gun rights and the NRA has added over 250,000 members in the last 5 weeks. Americans are also cleaning out existing stocks of guns and ammo. This includes new buyers.
    And polls show that the NRA is more popular than Obama.

    • January 24th, 2013 at 22:37 | #57

      Cargo said:

      And polls show that the NRA is more popular than Obama.

      Desperate, Cargo, desperate.
      What polls ran a comparison between a President and an organiation?

      The new members don’t surprise me at all. That’s just the way some people react.

      What I find ironic is that you and I am sure many others are hell bent for glory that Hillary Clinton assume all responsibility for a consulate attack and yet you don’t hold that old Lapierre buzzard somewhat responsible for his boorish language in his response to the tragic shooting of 20 first graders.

      i guess that’s what you do when you live in the “everybody but me” world.

  52. punchak
    January 24th, 2013 at 23:19 | #58

    Sure makes me feel good to know that there are so many of my fellow citizens armed and ready to defend me.
    Hope you got a lot of stock in the weapons and ammo industry. They must be rolling in money by now.

  53. January 24th, 2013 at 23:48 | #59

    I wish that I had the money to invest in those stocks. When I have the knowledge and time, I never have the money and vice versa.

  54. January 24th, 2013 at 23:54 | #60

    I don’t hold her responsible for the attack. I’ve never said a word about doing that.

    I hold her responsible for the crappy preparation, lack of security, ineptitude, and most of all, lying to the American people to advance a political agenda. The terrorists are responsible for the attack. I hold her responsible for her response to it.

    She has stated that she accepts “full responsibility.” The problem is that those words are empty.

    “somewhat responsible for his boorish language in his response to the tragic shooting of 20 first graders. ”

    Oh…now its his language in response to “hit” questions during an interview, during which he advocated the same plan put out by the President. Boorish…. Ok, then. Funny, I never see you object to rude Democrats, boorish leftist activists….Man! Those are some polite people.

  55. January 25th, 2013 at 09:51 | #61

    More snow headed our way. It is supposed to start at 2 pm and continue until around midnight.

  56. January 27th, 2013 at 09:23 | #62

    Did anyone happen to see the new series on Fox 5 called The Following?

    It was spellbinding. Starring Kevin Bacon,as former FBI agent Rayn Hardy it is about a network of serial killers. A little out of the ordinary and not horribly gory…yet.

  57. Starryflights
    January 27th, 2013 at 09:50 | #63

    Britain’s economy flirts with “triple dip” recession
    By David Milliken and Olesya Dmitracova | Reuters – Fri, Jan 25, 2013

    LONDON (Reuters) – Britain’s economy shrank more than expected at the end of 2012 with a North Sea oil production slump, lower factory output and a hangover from London’s Olympics pushing it perilously close to a “triple-dip” recession.

    The country’s gross domestic product fell 0.3 percent in the fourth quarter, the Office for National Statistics said on Friday, sharper than a 0.1 percent decline forecast by analysts.
    The news is a blow for Britain’s Conservative-led government, which a day earlier defended its austerity programme against criticism from the International Monetary Fund. It needs solid growth to meet its budget targets, keep a triple-A debt rating and bolster its chances of winning a 2015 election.


    How’s that austerity thing working out in Britain? Not so good, looks like. Austerity has been nothing short of a disaster for Britain

  58. Morris Davis
    January 27th, 2013 at 12:52 | #64

    Interesting hearing the dumb childish remarks that have spewed forth since Gov Bobby Jindal told Repubs they’ve got to stop being “the stupid party” and learn to engage in adult conversation. Repubs re-upped Rence Priebus as party head and most of their talking heads today said they don’t need to change, just do better marketing. Poor ole Bobby Jindal.


  59. punchak
    January 27th, 2013 at 14:56 | #65

    Rence Priebus is someone who is easy to dislike.

    • January 27th, 2013 at 15:13 | #66

      I cut him a break because he is saddled with such a strange name. At least no one forgets him.

  60. punchak
    January 27th, 2013 at 14:58 | #67

    Brazil –
    Night club fire kills at least 232 people.
    500 inside and ONE exit! Band´s pyrotechnics went awry.

  61. January 28th, 2013 at 00:05 | #68

    Starting today (Sunday) this week is national Meat Week.


  62. January 28th, 2013 at 01:45 | #69

    How about a movie recommendation? Memorial Day. No, it isn’t horribly literary but I sure did enjoy it. A boy coerces his grandfather into telling him a couple stories from his WWII army trunk that is stored away in the barn…..The stories involve the past, present and future.

  63. Lafayette
    January 28th, 2013 at 01:49 | #70

    I heard rumor that there was a Gift Fairy in your neck of the woods this afternoon.

  64. Lafayette
    January 28th, 2013 at 07:28 | #72

    I would check on top of your mailbox if I were you. 😉

  65. Starryflights
    January 28th, 2013 at 19:32 | #73

    Senators’ ‘tough but fair’ immigration blueprint would make people wait for citizenship
    By Liz Goodwin and Chris Moody | The Ticket – 6 hrs ago

    A bipartisan group of eight senators unveiled a new immigration reform proposal Monday that would allow most of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants currently living in the country to eventually become citizens.

    The senators unveiled details of the proposal during a press conference Monday afternoon, calling it a “tough but fair” way to reform the nation’s immigration system for the first time since 1986, when President Ronald Reagan signed into law a bill that legalized nearly 3 million immigrants.


    This is good. Tough but fair

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