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Gayle Trotter’s Big skeery gun

February 1st, 2013

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Gayle Trotter appears about minute 4.

“An assault weapon in the hands of a young woman defending her babies in her home becomes a defense weapon,” said Trotter, a mother of six. “And the peace of mind she has … knowing she has a scary-looking gun gives her more courage when she’s fighting hardened violent criminals.”

For all her concern over the little woman, it seems that Gayle Trotter didn’t even get the right weapon. The Little Woman fired a shotgun, not an AR-15. Additionally, Trotter has worked against the Women Against Violence Act WAVA) that is before Congress now.

According to Huffingtonpost.com:

In 2012, she wrote on the Independent Women’s Forum’s blog that VAWA infringed upon the rights of men who were falsely accused of domestic abuse. The law would also embolden “false accusers,” who would take “needed resources like shelters and legal aid … denying real victims of abuse access to these supports,” she wrote. Trotter and the forum characterized VAWA as “reckless demagoguery.”

I guess there is not concern over those who might get falsely accused and shot with a scary-looking gun.

I have been accused of “attacking” Ms. Trotter, which I had not done–just her message. Now I think I will “attack” her. What kind of flim-flam is she trying to pull off? She can’t even tell the story right. Does that classify as lying before the Senate? I think we need an honest broker here.

No one wants to ban your average shotgun. That seems to be the most difficult concept of all.

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  1. Starryflights
    February 1st, 2013 at 08:47 | #1

    Trotter is one of those bizarre, scary, gun hugging types who represent gun rights activists.

  2. February 1st, 2013 at 09:08 | #2

    I found the story ridiculous and insulting to women, before I found out she was totally wrong about the weapon used in the story.

    She is also opposed to the Violence Against Women Act because men might bre falesly accused of something.

    yea, she’s really out for the little woman, isn’t she?

  3. blue
    February 1st, 2013 at 11:25 | #3

    What was insulting was how she was heckled when she said “Guns are the great equalizer during a violent confrontation.”

    I am taken aback by the effort to dismiss the speaker and her message. I’m sure you agree that the ability of a woman to defend herself and others should be a part of the conversation.

    And yet, “CATO Institute Policy Analyst and Denver University Professor David Kopel expressed a similar sentiment to Trotter in written testimony, pointing out higher violent crime rates in other countries with strict gun control laws, in particular against women.

    “A woman in Great Britain is three times more likely to be raped than an American woman,” Kopel’s testimony reads. “Overall, the violent crime rate in England and Wales is far above the American rate. Using the standard definition for the four most common major violent crimes: homicide, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.”

    • February 1st, 2013 at 11:51 | #4

      @Blue,

      She made several really idiotic statements. Period.

      We aren’t talking about Great Britain or any place else other than Ms. Trotter not being truthful.

      She was attempting to sensationalize her own point of view rather than just present facts. Perhaps she should have applied some of her women and guns sentiment to more opportunities for women to shoot and purchase firearms in non-threatening environments. (just as an example) Rather talking about scary looking guns being a woman’s best defense.

      I didn’t hear her being heckled although after that statement, I am not sure why she wasn’t.

  4. Censored bybvbl
    February 1st, 2013 at 12:47 | #5

    Uh oh, it seems some organizations have been gathering information about guns and women.

    Women with a gun in the home were nearly three times as likely to be the victim of homicide than women living in a home without firearms, according to a 2003 study in the Annals of Emergency Medicine.

    “There’s good evidence that a gun in the home increases the likelihood that a woman in the home will die,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that a gun in the home is protective for the woman.”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ruth-marcus-the-phony-pro-gun-argument/2013/01/31/bdf91e5c-6bf1-11e2-ada0-5ca5fa7ebe79_story.html?hpid=z6

    These awful doctors and their prying must be the reason that the gun nuts don’t want physicians to ask their patients if they have a gun in the house. They could collect data that the NRA doesn’t like.

  5. Elena
    February 1st, 2013 at 14:15 | #6

    her message was bogus Blue. In fact, the fact that she was defeding the need for an AR-15 when the story she shared was about a woman using a 12 gauge shotgun totally refuted her premise.

    Those silly Harvard University Censored, what do THEY know!

  6. Elena
    February 1st, 2013 at 14:17 | #7

    Furthermore, her assertion about women being more likely to raped in Britain as a result of strict gun control was based on what facts? Where is the direct cause and effect study? yeah, there isn’t any I bet.

  7. kelly_3406
    February 2nd, 2013 at 07:18 | #8

    The Harvard study admits that statistics on the use of guns for self-defense is unreliable — ithe study is really just a review of previous studies and interviews with gun experts. Their results appear to rest mostly on a single study by Kellerman and coauthors(1993) which has been heavily criticized for its methods and data sample (i.e. over 50% of the cases involved people with arrest records). it focuses entirely on body count, but does not measure the number of times intruders were scared away or wounded.

    So I do not think that Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post was being entirely forthcoming.

    @Censored bybvbl

  8. February 2nd, 2013 at 11:41 | #9

    @kelly_3406
    Funny how, if you study how people were killed, and that the fact IS that we have a high murder rate that involves a gun, and that most murders happen in a “non-random” fashion, you will get a high correlation to murder and gun ownership. Fancy that. However, our overall murder rate is not the highest, and our violent crime rate is much lower than most of Europe. And Britain’s reporting is about to get more accurate because they have been downplaying their violent crime rate for years. And be aware that murders are only counted in England once a conviction for murder has been achieved.

    Notice how these studies don’t control for the hundreds of millions of gun owners that have NOT been murdered. Then that ratio drops precipitously. Or they don’t control for the hundreds of thousands of defensive uses that do not involve firing the gun.

    Elena is right. There might not be a direct cause and effect study on the number of women being raped in England vs America. But, if those women were armed, I can surmise that there would be fewer rapes….and rapists. The fact is, England has a much higher violent crime rate than the US. While the low number of armed people in England MAY contribute to that, also important is the new English philosophy that self defense is not a proper reaction and to let the authorities handle it. One must have a proper mindset before you have to defend yourself, and that is being erased.

  9. February 2nd, 2013 at 11:50 | #10
  10. middleman
    February 5th, 2013 at 19:16 | #11

    But…the argument isn’t whether women (or men) should have guns for home protection or to carry on their person in public. What is being proposed is an “assault-type” weapons ban (really a selected high-powered semi-automatic rifle ban), a high capacity magazine ban, and universal background checks. None of these changes to the law would affect the ability of women (or men) to protect themselves in their home. Believe me, if someone breaks into your home, you don’t want a rifle, you want a pistol or even a short barrel shotgun with a wide-pattern shotgun shell. The shotgun doesn’t really need to be aimed, and the pistol is a lot lighter and more maneuverable in close quarters than a rifle with the same stopping power, particularly with a hollow-point round.

    This whole home protection angle is a red herring, whether you agree with the “assault weapons” ban or not.

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