State of the Union Address and Ted Nugent
Rep. Steve Stockman, who recently threatened President Obama with impeachment over his executive orders regarding guns, is allowed to bring one guest to the State of the Union Address. He plans on bringing Ted Nugent who sits on the Board of Directors at the NRA. That would be fine except for the fact that the Secret Service had to pay Mr. Nugent a little visit about a year and a half ago over his mouth flashing at an NRA convention. Mr. Nugent told a crowd that he will “either be dead or in jail by this time next year” if Obama is re-elected.
The Secret Service and probably the Capitol Police should deny admission to Ted Nugent. His comments were taken seriously enough that the Secret Service paid him a visit. He can just sit out the State of the Union Address. There are too many important people all under one roof to allow someone who has shown as little good judgement as Nugent to have access.
Anyone who attends the State of the Union has to go through a fairly rigorous background check. When I went, I had to submit all sorts of information to the Congressmen who took us before hand. He submitted it to either the Capitol Police or the Secret Service. We were also given specific instructions that no political messages were to be on one’s person. That meant shirts, jewelry, purse…anything. Those who didn’t comply got removed.
Several years ago, Cindy Sheehan and a congressman’s wife were both removed. The Congressman’s wife simply wore a shirt entitled Support our Troops. The Congressman and his wife went weekly to Walter Reed to visit the wounded troops. Still she was removed. In other words, The Capital Police aren’t kidding. The Secret Service isn’t kidding. Did I mention this was all during the Bush administration?
Nugent has said he will go to the State of the Union unarmed. (I guess he doesn’t want to be arrested.)
According to the New York Times:
To illustrate his point, he noted that he would not be carrying any weapons as he usually does.
“I will go in at least 20 pounds lighter than I normally walk,” he said. “I will be going in sans the hardware store on my belt. I live a well-armed life, and I’ve got to demilitarize before I go.”
Nugent also reportedly called Barack Obama a “piece of sh!t” when he was campaigning in 2008. ABCnews.go.com reported:
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Nugent launched an even more direct attack at then-candidate Barack Obama, calling him a “piece of s**t.”
“I told him to suck on my machine gun,” Nugent said while brandishing two machine guns on stage at an August 2007 concert, according to Rolling Stone.
The rocker then took aim at Obama’s Democratic primary rival Hillary Clinton, saying to his cheering concert-goers, “Hey Hillary, you might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless b**ch.”
Nugent seems hostile and publically vulgar. He plans of having a press conference after the State of the Union Address. Hopefully it will be away from the gallery and in compliance with Capitol Police rules.
About 20 members of Congress have given away their guest tickets to guests who have been wounded by gun violence. They need to be aware that they have to go by the same rules. Nothing political before, during, or after the State of the Union. It’s just the rule of engagement.
Further reading: Washington Post
Rep. Steve Stockman
Ted should offer to take the President Skeet shooting.
or he could ask Dick Cheney to take him hunting just to be a good sport.
Ted Nugent has lost the right be around any president in my opinion.
Cheney could stand to use some hunting lessons by the Nuge.
I suggest that draft dodgers not be called patriots. Kind of messes with things like the meaning of words…
Just let Ted be himself and I imagine he will he will look like an a$$, no need to do anything but watch the show. Why do the republicans insist on show casing the worst behavior of its members.
@Bruce Roemmelt
So…Bill Clinton, who avoided the draft, should not be called a patriot?
Most people I knew avoided the draft any way they legally could. They are patriots.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp
Cargo, glad to hear you so vehemently defended John Kerry and the republicans that went after him for his brave vietnam service!
Furthermore, if Nugent could actually engage in a mature conversation then maybe his own “patriot cred” would not be scrutinized.
Question? who are these “evil anti american people”?
i.e., stupid words of nugent:
“If you want more of those kinds of evil anti-American people in the Supreme Court, then don’t get involved and let Obama take office again,” Nugent said Saturday. “Because I’ll tell you this right now: If Barack Obama becomes the president in November again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year.”
With their latest stunt bringing Ted Nugent into a room with relatives of victims of gun crimes, the idiots that partially make up the ultra-conservative wing of the GOP have ailenated yet another bunch of voters. You can’t make this stuff up!
Yee Haa!!!
@middleman
How true!
@Elena
I have no problem with John Kerry’s service in Vietnam. Whatever happened there… and however he got his Purple Hearts….. that’s what happened. I have a problem with his dishonorable actions as a Reserve Naval Officer AFTER he got back. For THAT he should have been court martialed.
If he should have been, he would have been. that’s how it rolled back then.
To suggest anything else is really second guessing and Monday morning quarter-backing.
On the other hand, ponder why Lt. Calley didn’t spend the rest of his days in Levanworth.
Instead of Nuge, the GOP should have brought in people who have defended their lives with firearms.
I wish Nugent had made good on his promise to be dead or in jail by this time after Obana kicked Romney’s butt.
This certainly won’t help the Repugs rebrand their image as kind and inclusive, as they have been attempting to do lately.
Jail would work for me.
I love how Republicans support the first amendment only when it’s their issue!
Well Cargo, considering you weren’t there in vietnam watching your fellow americans get blown away in a war that we had no business waging, I don’t think its really your place to judge others.
So, I can’t judge illegal actions? Do you want me to apply that spurious logic to opinions said here? I had a brother there. Kerry was a Navy Reserve officer that cooperated and assisted enemy forces politically while he was still under orders. Now…if he wanted to do that as a civilian…. fine. Resign the commission, THEN go help the enemy.
Where does the 1st Amendment come into play in your little scenario?
Exactly what did Kerry do that was illegal? Nothing. Yea. speaking of 1st Amendment…..he didn’t help the enemy.
@Moon-howler
Again…while still a Reserve Naval Officer, he assisted the North Vietnamese in formulating and delivering THEIR “peace” offerings, etc.
THAT is illegal under the UCMJ. He dishonored his service by treating with the enemy. Literally.
Watching the live blogging from Stephen Green, VodkaPundit.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/drunkblogging-sotu/
Too funny.
“We’re buying more American cars and less foreign oil!
Frackin’-a.”
We need to make “basic decisions about our budget.”
Enacting one might be a start.
And this is sooooo true
“I am open to additional reforms from both parties…”
This will play out like immigration reform. Tell Congress to come up with something, sabotage the results, then blame the Republicans for obstructionism.
Anyway….happy Watching.
“The greatest nation on earth cannot continue drifting from one manufactured crisis to the next.”
WTF??????
Did HE say that? WHO does he think is manufacturing these crises? Who say that the administration can’t let a crisis go to waste?
My blood pressure can’t take it….. I can’t even watch it indirectly…..
Now I remember why I wait for the transcript.
He’s right. We can’t bounce from one republican-induced crisis to another.
Here is a vivid description of how Nugent avoided the draft. It is pretty disgusting, so don’t read it if you just ate
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/draft_dodging_republican_hero_ted_nugent_endorses_mitt_romney
@Starryflights
It wasn’t the Republicans that invented the sequester.
i think when all is said and done, both groups can claim the sequester. Let’s go back to the dumb asses who made it necessary…those people that cratered the stock market in July 2011. Yes, I said dumb asses.
THIS is cool. Just found out that Bing had a set up to rate the speech.
http://www.bing.com/politics/stateoftheunion
Found it here, originally
http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/02/12/bing-measures-the-sotu-gun-control-debate/
The INTERNET! What can’t it do?
Well, I was going to fisk the speech, but 6000 word/20 pages is too long even for me. I mean there is such a thing a too rich target rich environment.
6000 words. Who does he think he is? Bill Clinton?
@Cargosquid
Thank goodness.
So Cargo, did you hero behave himself and conduct himself properly?
I thought it was a rather soft pedaled SOTU address.
I believe the sequester centered around raising the debt ceiling. That manufactured crisis ringin’ a bell Cargo? I love it, Bush spends money like its going out of style on two wars and medicare part D and Republicans embrace the spending of tax payer dollars with no problem!
@Moon-howler
My hero?
Yes. I think Rand Paul did quite well.
@Elena
Yep. That manufactured crisis. The sequester was invented by Obama. And I’ve stated here that its a scam. They voted for it…they can repeal it. I don’t have a problem with it happening.
Bush spending money and it was embraced? Really? There is a reason why the GOP lost the House and the TEA Party started coming together.
Funny thing about that…..even with Bush’s spending, he was still under a 500 billion deficit. The 2009 fiscal year was not submitted to him. Pelosi/Reid sent that to Obama and have not submitted another budget since, and the deficit has skyrocketed.
@Cargo
your other hero, Mr. Nugent.
And this surprised you bout the 2009 fiscal year? It seems to me, as I recall, Obama was desperately trying to bring the economy back, all while dealing with a 2 front war.
What do you think would have happened under Bush? Anything different? Didn’t think so.
Its the finger pointing I find so annoying.
I could put up something about growing roses at the White House and you would find a way to Obama-bash, rather than discuss what’s at hand.
I find that totally annoying. My husband does that also except he does it over Bush.
My mortgage got sold to a new lender because my old company is in bankruptcy. I was explaining this to my husband. He used the explanation as a springboard into an attack on George Bush. ARRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!! At what point is it time to move on? That isn’t a discussion, its a harrangue.
@Moon-howler
The Nuge isn’t my hero. He’s just another spokesman for the NRA, the 2nd Amendment, and a celebrity. His opinions are HIS opinions. I like some of his music. My 2nd Amendment hero is Alan Gura.
Apparently it would have been different if Bush had signed it. Pelosi and Reid withheld the budget from Bush in 2008 because he stated that he would veto it because of too much spending.
As for Obama Bashing…I gave him credit earlier.
I will state where my opposition is and what it is. I give credit where I think it is due. Its not my fault if Obama continues to do and say things that are, in my opinion, harmful.
I never saw Ted. Was he there? I thought it was poor taste to have Nuge in the same audience with Newtown families
I did too. but I think Nugent defines poor taste–without even trying.
After his dead or in jail remarks last year, I think he should not have been allowed to go. He shouldn’t have had access to those people in there.
The TEA party came into power because the GOP lost to Obama! Extreme conservatives turned on Bush, even I felt bad for the man!
I’m just happy that we have a president that intends to keep addressing the issues that will move our nation forward. And it’s no coincidence that the majority of Americans are behind him on most if not all that he mentioned last night. Democracy works!
I read this morning that 77% of the people who viewed the State of the Union were generally pleased or very pleased with it.
You can’t beat that with a stick!