6 officers arrested. 3 are black. 1 of those black officers is a woman. The other three appear to be white men.

Why do I believe that their guilt has already been determined, regardless of facts?  I hope I am wrong.

31 thoughts on “6 Baltimore police officers arrested, 1 charged with murder

  1. Starryflights

    Mr Gray ought not to have been arrested. He did nothing illegal. Making contact with an officer is not illegal. The State Attorney is making the right decision. The officers will get a fair trial. Justice will be served.

    1. How do you know what he did or did not do?

      Haven’t we had enough “trial by media?”

      I would like to try to base my opinion on facts. All I really know is that he took off running when he saw the cops. I was always taught that is a really bad idea.

      I will let you know when I form my opinion about his behavior and the guilt of innocence of the 6 cops.

  2. Ed Myers

    The officers will be acquitted. This is just a show trial to buy time.

  3. I think mostly I am really tired of people excusing really bad behavior by saying its cultural.

    I don’t care if it is beheading foreign journalists in the middle east or being unintelligible when speaking or burning and looting your neighborhood or someone else’s. Those are all examples of bad behavior.

    There really are no excuses. The bad behavior should not be accepted or excused. It will continue as long as there is someone willing to make up some whiney assed reason to say lo the poor whoever.

  4. Emma

    I’d prefer the American method of charging and convicting based on facts and evidence, and not on the Somalian method of meeting the demands of a violent, destructive mob. I want to hope this was the case, but the prosecutor didn’t help with her “I heard your cries!” or whatever mob-pander quote was attributed to her.

    1. Totally agree. Any yes, the prosecutor did pander horribly.

  5. punchak

    Oh, well, everything will be just fine. After all, “Reverend” Sharpton
    will be leading marches to Washington DC today and tomorrow.
    Hope he gets picked up for severe tax debt!

  6. Rick Bentley

    It’s pretty obvious to anyone who has watched “The Wire” why Grey ran.

    The Police in the “war on drugs” have a heck of a time finding drugs on anyone. Drug sellers have created a fairly elaborate system of distribution where they’re not in physical posession of the drugs. Some kid takes your money. He holds two fingers in the air to tell another kid you bought two. That kid runs and takes two vials out of a bag, and gives them to you. No one’s standing around holding the drugs.

    Best the cops can really do to put any pain on the adults in charge is go OBTAIN the drugs, cause a financial hit on the dealers. Grab “the stash” which is usually sitting in a bag somewhere.

    So when the police come by someone takes of as a “runner”. Sometimes they have the stash. Sometimes not – their purpose was to pull the police towards them.

    Grey pulled a “runner”. Maybe he had drugs and got rid of them, maybe he didn’t have any drugs at any point.

    (watch The Wire, Season 3 episode 1 for a good example of what I’m talking about).

    In either case the Police are deeply frustrated with their inability to make busts on anyone meaningful, and prone to becoming physically abusive. And broke his back or whatever happened. And then were negligent to the point of manslaughter.

  7. Cargosquid

    They arrested him on probable cause. Of course, probable cause is subjective. They found a pocket knife that may or may not be illegal….because the knife laws are a ridiculous mess. He ran….for reasons that we’ll never know. He was a felon with a long record. Habit?

    Thus…they continued the arrest….and the rest is history.

    This is the perfect storm of bad policing, bad laws, bad politicians, and a bad court system. Sad to think that if he had not gotten an early out and probation, he’d probably be alive today. Notice…I did NOT say bad person….HE is innocent until convicted.

  8. Rick Bentley

    No one can be so stupid as to think they arrested him because they saw this ostensible knife.

    The situation was presumably as I described above.

  9. Cargosquid

    I didn’t say I believed him.

    The report states that once he was grabbed and arrested, they stated that he had an illegal knife.

    The laws in the state may make it an illegal switchblade, but there is no button on the handle. It was a spring assist, with a thumb stud on the blade for one handed opening.

    However, Baltimore has other laws.

    And if the knife is considered concealed….he is a felon in possession of a concealed weapon.

  10. Wolve

    I think they found the knife in a pat down only after the chase and detention. For reasons of the long rap sheet, I’m inclined to go for Mr. Bentley’s scenario. Or maybe for a small baggie of something illicit being tossed away during the pursuit. Or possibly just pure panic because Mr. Gray knew he had done something illegal and thought the cops might have found out and were zeroing in on him again for that reason. But, I guess we’ll never really know.

    1. Probably not. I am just sick and tired of communities being torn up over people who were toads in the first place. We aren’t talking about the gunning down on innocents.

      Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think people deserve to die because they don’t hold their hands up high enough but geez.

      I was taught to mind the police and I would be fine.

  11. Wolve

    punchak :
    Oh, well, everything will be just fine. After all, “Reverend” Sharpton
    will be leading marches to Washington DC today and tomorrow. If the biged Al
    Hope he gets picked up for severe tax debt!

    If the IRS obliged Al Sharpton to fork over on his delinquent taxes, that might at least be a start for fixing some things in Baltimore.

  12. Wolve

    Officer down!

    Plainclothes NYPD officer Brian Moore, age 25, is in a coma after being shot twice in the head while on duty in Queens. Cut down by two bullets even before he could get out of his patrol car to question a known individual named Demetrius Blackwell, 35, whose list of 10 arrests includes five for robbery, grand larceny, and criminal possession of a weapon. Blackwell is in custody. Moore is in the prayers of his colleagues.

    That’s the fifth time in the last five months that NYPD officers have been shot on the streets of New York City.

    1. No one ever hears about this side of the issue. Was Brian Moore married? Did he have children? I expect he was someone’s son and brother and grandchild.

      Thanks for bringing this loss to our attention, Wolve.

  13. Ed Myers

    Is there any evidence he was shot because he was a police officer? Moore not in uniform or in a marked car could have made it difficult for Blackwell in the split second as they closed in on him to correctly evaluate whether Moore was a mortal threat.

    1. Well, by all means blow someone away if you can’t evaluate who they are. I think we call that murder. are you now going to support murder?

  14. Emma

    @Ed Myers
    How odd that in prior posts, you refuse to give police the same latitude.

  15. Ed Myers

    Wait, don’t rush to judgment. I’m trying to figure out if it was intentional or an accident.

  16. Wolve

    Looks like Moore and a partner were on patrol in plainclothes and an unmarked car when they spotted Blackwell adjusting his waistband in the manner of someone hiding a weapon there. They reportedly told Blackwell to stop and exchanged some words with him. (I am assuming they identified themselves as cops per SOP if Blackwell didn’t know them already. Don’t know this for sure.) It appears that Blackwell just whirled around at some point and fired two shots before either cop could react. The cops were right about the gun in the waistband. Blackwell took off on the run but was soon tracked down and arrested — without the gun. (Blackwell had spent five years in jail for an armed robbery in which he apparently threatened to shoot the victim.)

    Haven’t seen yet if Brian Moore is married. He comes from a family with a long line of police officers. Jamaica Hospital is reporting that he is now in critical but stable condition and in a medically induced coma. His partner was not hit and called for help. Another patrol car showed up quickly and transported Moore to the hospital. The reporting is that this fast response by his brother NYPD officers may well have saved Moore’s life.

    Damned shame that I am writing this stuff. These are the same NYPD cops whose comrades were running up the stairs when the Twin Towers collapsed while other people were running down in a desperate effort to escape.

    1. Officer Moore passed away this afternoon. He was murdered by a thug.

  17. Ed Myers

    Is there video?

  18. The news story of officer Moore has been all over TV. I saw it on Morning Joe this am.

    Moore was shot through the face and is in critical condition.

  19. Jackson Bills

    How many people believe that most of these charges will be lessened or dropped by the time it goes to trial? When it does go to trial and the jury finds the officer not guilty of 2nd degree murder how many more nights of rioting will there be? To get a 2nd degree murder conviction the prosecutor is going to have to prove without a reasonable doubt intent to kill.

    This prosecutor appears to be aspiring for higher office by the rhetoric she spews instead of just stating the facts of the case and listing the charges. It’s a damn shame because this somewhat looks like the same overcharging we saw in the Zimmerman case. When most, if not all, charges are dropped due to lack of evidence or the jury finds the officers not guilty 200 more minority owned businesses are going to burn to the ground.

    Congrats Ms. Mosby; your now the new Angela Corey.

    1. Ms. Mosby makes no pretense of being objective at all. Talk about a not so hidden agenda.

      I believe she should step down from her post.

  20. Jackson Bills

    Ed Myers :
    Is there video?

    There probably would have been police video of the entire incident with Mr. Gray in B-More had mayor (D) Stephanie Rawlings-Blake not vetoed a bill to supply police with body cams because of a BS plastic bag issue tied to it.

  21. Wolve

    Tonight there is another gap in the thin blue line which stands between all of us and chaos.

    R.I.P. Officer Brian Moore.

  22. Emma

    PWC police will soon be testing body cams. That can’t happen soon enough.

  23. Jackson Bills

    Moon-howler :
    Ms. Mosby makes no pretense of being objective at all. Talk about a not so hidden agenda.
    I believe she should step down from her post.

    I could not agree with you more Moon; your spot on with this one.

  24. Jackson Bills

    Emma :
    PWC police will soon be testing body cams. That can’t happen soon enough.

    +1 Emma

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