hot rocks

dailycaller.com:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell reportedly told colleagues they will drop GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump “like a hot rock.”

McConnell reassured Republican members of the upper chamber they could run negative ads against Trump if he becomes the nominee and it threatens their re-election, reports The New York Times.

Additionally, McConnell told Republican senators during the members’ weekly lunch that the potential of Trump losing to Hillary Clinton is a given and it is best to describe to voters that a Republican Senate is a necessary check to a Clinton presidency.

So can I safely assume that Mitch McConnell dislikes Donald Trump?  Trump will explode over this one.

At some point someone has to point out that the GOP is reaping what it has sown.   After taking votes from every extreme group with a chip on its shoulder over something, I think this is what you get.

Is Trump unstoppable?  Yes, but only by the Democrats.  You just can’t live that much on the outside and expect a majority.  It isn’t going to happen.

 

Read more:  http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/27/mcconnell-tells-gop-senators-well-drop-trump-like-a-hot-rock/#ixzz41WVntzrM

61 Thoughts to “McConnell to drop Trump like a hot rock”

  1. Wolve

    That happens amidst the current populist anger at Washington and I suggest it will be McConnell and his Establishment toadies who will become the hot rocks. Not much love for McConnell outside the Republican caucus in the Senate. He was a lucky fellow in the last election. He rode a wave he didn’t deserve.

    1. He does commander a certain amount of power simply because he is Senate Majority leader. He isn’t up for reelection until 2020. So what will you do with him? Unless the Democrats win back the Senate, he is the boss.

      I don’t like it any better than you do but it sure doesn’t look like he is going anywhere any time soon.

  2. Wolve

    I am beginning to think that this political show on both sides of the fence merits a supply of caramel corn. It’s too good for regular popcorn.

    1. If you can find comparable entertainment out of the Democrats, I wish you would share it. I don’t know of anyone who really watches those debates, except Republicans.

  3. Wolve

    Although I find the Dems comparatively boring, I must say that one can get at least some amusement from the campaign trail out of Hillary’s attempts to speak “Black” in front of Blacks and “Southern” in front of White Southerners. She has certainly given new meaning to “pandering.”

  4. Starry flights

    Glad to hear McConnel say that. He’ll be around for awhile

    Here’s a good op-Ed from Rachel Maddow

    What does it say about the GOP that Trump is the white supremacists’ candidate?

    The writer hosts MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show” and is a contributing columnist for The Post.

    “Donald Trump is not a racist, but Donald Trump is not afraid. Don’t vote for a Cuban, vote for Donald Trump.” This is not the first white supremacist pro-Trump robocall by a group calling itself “American National Super PAC,” but it hits the same low notes as the last one. “We don’t need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people,” said the first call, which went out to Iowa and New Hampshire voters ahead of the presidential nominating contests in those states. The group’s pre-Super Tuesday call, which has reportedly gone out in Vermont and Minnesota, says, “The white race is dying out. . . . Few schools anymore have beautiful white children as the majority.” Both calls identify the person responsible for the message as a “farmer and white nationalist,” and both end the same way: “Vote Trump . . . This call is not authorized by Donald Trump.”

    Trump has no affiliation with the white supremacists making these calls on his behalf, but he’s certainly got them all excited. The racist American Freedom Party is technically running its own candidate for president on a “Stop White Genocide” ticket, but its heart is clearly with Trump. A statement from the group announcing that first round of racist robocalls in Iowa called Trump “The Great White Hope.”

    Before the first votes were cast this year, Trump’s candidacy was also being hailed and welcomed by the American Nazi Party, the KKK-affiliated “Knights Party,” the skinhead and neo-Nazi online forum “The Daily Stormer” and former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke.

    Duke started praising Trump on his radio show during the summer, saying that Trump’s campaign was doing “some incredibly great things,” but he stopped short of fully endorsing Trump’s candidacy. Now, Duke is overtly calling on his supporters to join the Trump campaign: “Voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage. . . . I am telling you that it is your job now to get active. Get off your duff. Get off your rear-end that’s getting fatter and fatter for many of you every day on your chairs. When this show’s over, go out, call the Republican Party, but call Donald Trump’s headquarters, volunteer. They’re screaming for volunteers. Go in there, you’re gonna meet people who are going to have the same kind of mind-set that you have.”

    Rubio, Cruz take aim at Trump ahead of Super Tuesday

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    During appearances on Sunday morning talk shows, Republican presidential candidates Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tx.) take aim at Donald Trump who responds by saying they’re both “nasty.” (TWP)

    Candidates cannot control who endorses them, and no one should hold candidates accountable for the views and actions of their supporters unless the candidates endorse them in turn. But that doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t notice who’s lining up behind whom.

    While there is no evidence that Trump is actively courting the support of neo-Nazis and white supremacists, or that he welcomes it, that support also doesn’t come as a surprise after the campaign that he has run.

    Since he has been running for president, Trump has twice retweeted a message from the account @WhiteGenocideTM. The name associated with the account is “Donald Trumpovitz,” and the user’s location is listed as “Jewmerica.” The avatar associated with the account — which Trump has twice sent to his own 6 million followers — includes the phrase, “The man who wants to be Hitler.”

    In November, Trump also tweeted a graphic that showed wildly inaccurate statistics blaming African Americans for anti-white crime. The graphic originated from a Twitter account headed with a stylized swastika that is the symbol of a neo-Nazi group. The profane description of who the account belongs to includes the statement, “Should have listened to the Austrian chap with the little moustache.”

    The Trump campaign, again, should not be conflated with its followers, but the candidate has not exactly gone out of his way to make clear to the white nationalists and neo-Nazis among us that their love is unrequited. After Duke started praising him last summer, Trump told interviewers who pressed him to repudiate the Klansman, “Sure, I would, if that would make you feel better.” Within the past few days, Trump said once that he disavowed Duke’s support, and then subsequently that he would not disavow it because he didn’t know who Duke was.

    In 1991, Duke ran for office as the gubernatorial nominee of the Republican Party in Louisiana. Disgusted mainstream Republicans were beside themselves that a Klansman had become the party’s standard-bearer in that state. He was denounced by Republicans up to and including then-President George H.W. Bush.

    That said, the Democratic Party’s candidate in that 1991 governor’s race was no prize either. Edwin Edwards had already served three terms as Louisiana governor, but he was flagrantly, even proudly, corrupt. Edwards ultimately went on to serve eight years in federal prison, but not before defeating Duke in a campaign that featured two of America’s all-time great political slogans: “Vote for the Crook. It’s Important” and “Vote for the Lizard, Not the Wizard.” The point is that Duke lost that race, even against an opponent like Edwards. Of course he lost. Characters like that are expected to lose in America, anywhere and everywhere.

    Neo-Nazis, Klan members and white nationalists are a durable feature of the far-right fringe in U.S. politics. The constant reinvention and reintroduction of a character such as Duke over the years shows that our nation’s racist yahooism probably will never go away completely. It’s like a latent infection that becomes mildly symptomatic again every time we’re under too much stress.

    What we’re not used to is it winning, and thereby getting a place in the spotlight at the center of mainstream, national politics.

    Maybe the Republican Party cracked the seal on this kind of thing in 2014, when it elevated Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) to the top tier of the House Republican leadership. Scalise, as a state legislator, once addressed a white supremacist convention of the European-American Unity and Rights Organization. He says he had no idea that it was a racist group, but a local reporter says he also told her at the time that Louisiana voters should think of him as “David Duke without the baggage.”

    That’s a quote that the White House has frequently reiterated to the press corps since Republicans decided to elevate Scalise to the No. 3 job in the House.

    The White House keeps bringing up the quote because it’s supposed to be a source of shame for Scalise and for the party in choosing him as a leader. That’s the usual interplay between the racist fringe and the mainstream political right: The overtly racist stuff is supposed to be a political loser and radioactive to mainstream Republicans. What is not usual is that same cast of racist characters and organizations feeling at home and well represented at the very apotheosis of Republican Party politics, in the campaign of the prohibitive front-runner for the party’s presidential nomination.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/what-does-it-say-about-the-gop-that-trump-is-the-white-supremacists-candidate/2016/02/28/0d5d0b12-dcbe-11e5-891a-4ed04f4213e8_story.html

  5. Wolve

    Uh huh, Rachel Maddow. David Duke and Trump. White racist types urge the election of Trump. This, of course, somehow taints Trump himself. Maddow trying to apply her special leftie glue to Trump: Oh, no, but of course the Donald has no connection to those racists. It’s just that these bad people keep saying…..well, you know…..

    Oooookay! The Democrats are tainted by Communists. That includes the Clintons. Try that one for size.

    1. That is such crap…re Clintons and communism. You try it on for size. That makes no sense.

      Yea, Trump does have a connection to racists. Have you not heard some of the crap that has come out of his mouth? I am not blaming the KKK on him but that isn’t the only thing that makes someone a racist.

      Hint: Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers might be a good place to start the racist exam….

      You certainly have become a Trump supporter, Wolve. Doesn’t that embarrass you?

    2. The GOP has things far more serious to worry about than the Democrats or Joe Biden. Rather than looking at Biden as a way to excuse Trump’s totally unacceptable behavior, figure out what you are going to do about it. You have a serious problem on your hands.

      Keep trying to blame Democrats for what is clearly a GOP dysfunctional problem.

  6. Wolve

    The Democrat side may be trying to make a comedic comeback in order to boost their audience ratings for the current election campaign:

    Yesterday: Lunch Bucket Joe Biden apologizes to Mexico for Donald Trump’s criticism of Mexicans with regard to illegal immigration. Joe tells the Mexicans that Trump’s views are not the views of Americans.

    2007 in Iowa: Joe Biden rambles on about the problems in Mexico. He says Mexico is “a dysfunctional society.”

    My, my, either the Democrats have dementia or they think everyone else does.

    Caramel corn — definitely.

  7. Jackson Bills

    Wolve :
    Although I find the Dems comparatively boring, I must say that one can get at least some amusement from the campaign trail out of Hillary’s attempts to speak “Black” in front of Blacks and “Southern” in front of White Southerners. She has certainly given new meaning to “pandering.”

    Don’t forget her amazing dancing skills:

  8. Pat.Herve

    and they made Trump sign a pledge that he would support the nominee. Seems like RNC wants things one way for themselves. Trump had to pledge to support them, but they will not support Trump. They are some values.

    1. What would you look like up there? God, you guys just don’t get it, do you?

      Now you are making fun of someone’s dancing. You have a serious problem out there….your party is imploding on itself. Your solution is to make fun of Hillary’s dancing. No wonder you have a political problem.

      Your only solution is to make fun of democrats? What about a solution to fix the GOP problem? You have your front runner backing himself into a corner with the KKK, rightly or wrongly. You have your top candidates trying to destroy each other, including talking about each other wetting their pants.

      Your solution: talking about Joe Biden, who is known for foot in mouth disease.
      That is no solution.

      As the GOP implodes, the nation implodes.

  9. Jackson Bills

    @MoonHowler
    Are you in complete and total denial about the state of the Democrat party? It would be nice to talk about it every now and then but your obsession with Trump trumps (pun intended) everything. Around 90% of the last couple of dozen threads have been about Trump. Not a single thread about Hillary, or any Democrat for that matter, other than her getting an endorsement from PP.

    The DNC and little Debbie are so in the tank for Clinton that their vice chair finally had enough and resigned:
    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/28/468457319/vice-chair-of-dnc-resigns-to-support-bernie-sanders

  10. Jackson Bills

    @MoonHowler
    Lets also not forget what a potential Clinton inauguration may look like:
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/02/branco-cartoon-straight-outta-luck/

    1. Wouldn’t that just turn you on!!! You could spend inaugural weekend basking in the afterglow.

  11. Steve Thomas

    MoonHowler :
    If you can find comparable entertainment out of the Democrats, I wish you would share it. I don’t know of anyone who really watches those debates, except Republicans.

    Moon,

    I would caution against believing that the major tectonic shift is only occurring on the GOP side. While it seems the MSM is fascinated by the goings on, they are incorrectly calling this an “implosion” of the Republican Party. Go back to the 1980 primary campaign, and you will see similar predictions, as realization that Reagan was going to be the nominee, became apparent.

    The same “tremors” are happening on the Dem side, but the MSM has largely ignored them, so I can’t blame you for missing them either. Please consider this:

    The GOP has been moving towards this point, since the 2nd term of GW Bush. During this period a couple of things happened: The economy entered a recession and the president’s response was to bail out the entities that held most (but not all) of the blame for having caused the crash. The realization that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan weren’t going according to plan, mostly because there wasn’t a plan. Individual liberties were deemed secondary to national security, wrapped in a program ironically called “The Patriot Act”. A GOP president could expand entitlement programs just as well, if not better than, a Democrat. The whole “RINO” and “not a dimes bit of difference” feelings erupted within the ranks of the GOP. The result was the TEA Party, a dabbling in Libertarianism.

    Consider for a moment the natural cycle partisan election, where the electorate oscillates between the parties, almost as regularly as the annual tilting of the Sun, which results in the four seasons of each party’s “hemispheres”. Historically, each party goes through Spring (rising shift of support towards the party) Summer (the support puts this party in power at the state and federal levels), Autumn (support for the party begins to decline, and a gradual loss of power) Winter, (a time when the opposing party is enjoying peak power, old concepts and personalities die off, with only the most hardy surviving) and on to an eventual Spring. I have subscribed to this theory since it was first presented to me as a college student, while we analyzed the build-up to the 1992 election.

    Those candidates who come along periodically, and dramatically shake up the status quo, are simply good at reading which season the electorate is in. Reagan in 1980. Clinton in 92 (after an Indian Summer of HW Bush) Obama in 2008…and Trump in 2016.

    Every presidential election is the ultimate expression of “the season”, but if you look at state elections first, and mid-terms next, you get a sense for where the electorate and the parties are headed…and things have been heading in the GOP’s direction almost from the start of Obama’s election (which represents the height of Democrat political summer, a Solstice if you will).

    The GOP is not imploding, anymore than the Democrat Party is. Both are in a transitional season, Spring for the GOP, and Autumn for the Democrats. The “Sandernistas” aren’t going anywhere. The GOP will start to lose (has already started) at the state level, and there will be a shift in the US Senate, and eventually the House (post-2020 census). 2020 or 2024, will see the US swear in a Democrat who is very different than Obama, Warren, or HRC. My money is on Tulsi Gabbard, D-HI.

    The nation survived Obama. It will survive Trump. Just bundle up and survive the winter.

    1. But Trump? Cruz? Ewwww, just EWWWWWWWWWWW.

      Reagan had some class. Bill Clinton had some class, (perhaps a different kind of class but he wasn’t void) (LBJ had none)

      Trump has none. He is totally lacking in class, manners, and thing gracious. He would be an embarrassment.That’s before we even get to policy.

      I find that he would even be considered horrifying–just based on personal behavior.

  12. Wolve

    MoonHowler :
    That is such crap…re Clintons and communism. You try it on for size. That makes no sense.
    Yea, Trump does have a connection to racists. Have you not heard some of the crap that has come out of his mouth? I am not blaming the KKK on him but that isn’t the only thing that makes someone a racist.
    Hint: Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers might be a good place to start the racist exam….
    You certainly have become a Trump supporter, Wolve. Doesn’t that embarrass you?

    Tsk, tsk. You are not aware then that the Communist Party USA has endorsed every Democratic Party POTUS candidate and Vice-POTUS candidate since Michael Dukakis? That includes Bill Clinton twice and Obama twice. They even stumped for Johnson against Goldwater way back in 1964. Nary a single endorsement for a Republican. Now, one might say that those Commies seem to have quite an affinity for the Democratic Party. A commonality of ideology or tactics perhaps? Birds of a feather maybe? Both extreme statists possibly?

    Oh, but of course those Commies have no connection to the Democratic Party. It’s just that those bad people keeping saying…..well, you know what I mean……..

    Hmmmph. Silly, isn’t it? Well, so is Maddow and the WaPo.

    1. I am not after Trump because the KKK endorsed him. He has no control over an endorsement. I am concerned over his reaction and denials.

      I haven’t heard Maddow and the WaPo on the subject of commies endorsing candidates. I guess even commies have free speech.

  13. Wolve

    MoonHowler :
    The GOP has things far more serious to worry about than the Democrats or Joe Biden. Rather than looking at Biden as a way to excuse Trump’s totally unacceptable behavior, figure out what you are going to do about it. You have a serious problem on your hands.
    Keep trying to blame Democrats for what is clearly a GOP dysfunctional problem.

    I agree. There is a serious problem. I have come to the firm conclusion that Hillary is “evil.” Sort of like Lady Macbeth evil. It’s something about the lips. It seems like almost every time they move, a falsehood is produced. I don’t think anyone should want that for our dear country. I mean, what kind of lack of conscience would lead someone to lie totally to the families mourning their dead in Benghazi? You can’t get much lower than that.

    1. Maybe you are reading too much nonsense on the internet. When did you first start hating her?

  14. Censored bybvbl

    Commies? That label scares old peeps. The USSR ain’t what it used to be although Russia is still a country to be taken seriously. And the label “Socialist” only scares and dates old people too. Youngsters think Scandinavia rather than Marx.

    I think Trump will get mad at the Republican establishment and take his sideshow on the road as a third party. His ego won’t allow him to succumb to their tactics. It’ll be a three party race with the Dems winning with Hillary if he is stopped prior to the convention.

    It’s been obvious that the Republican party is a Southern white party for a long time now. You reap what you sow when you have to appeal to prejudices to win.

    1. I think he will go third party also if the GOP doesn’t “let” him run under their banner.

      You are right, it will be handing off to Hillary.

  15. Wolve

    Shameful that Hillary should even be a candidate. The “youngsters” for Bernie have at least gotten something right.

  16. Steve Thomas

    Censored bybvbl :
    Commies? That label scares old peeps. The USSR ain’t what it used to be although Russia is still a country to be taken seriously. And the label “Socialist” only scares and dates old people too. Youngsters think Scandinavia rather than Marx.
    I think Trump will get mad at the Republican establishment and take his sideshow on the road as a third party. His ego won’t allow him to succumb to their tactics. It’ll be a three party race with the Dems winning with Hillary if he is stopped prior to the convention.
    It’s been obvious that the Republican party is a Southern white party for a long time now. You reap what you sow when you have to appeal to prejudices to win.

    Censored,

    Would you care to place a friendly wager on whose scenario proves out?

    Mine: Trump is the eventual nominee, as “establishment” types like Christie and Sessions board the Trump-Train, after Rubio loses in Florida, Kasich loses in Ohio, and Cruz barely eeks out a victory in Texas, this Tuesday. The prospect of Hillary becoming president is enough to unite the party behind Trump. Trump rolls on to victory against Hillary, who is constantly dogged by the on-going FBI investigation, and fails to pull in the Sandernista wing of the party.

    Yours: The RNC pulls some sort of trickery, and Trump is denied the nomination at a contested convention. Trump launches a third party bid, and the divided right is defeated by Hillary, who somehow manages to expand her base beyond Blacks and the “Sisterhood of the Traveling Pant-suit”.

    The prize: Loser purchases dinner for the Winner & Moon, at the restaurant of choice, withing the Manassas area.

  17. Steve Thomas

    Wolve :
    Shameful that Hillary should even be a candidate. The “youngsters” for Bernie have at least gotten something right.

    Wolve,

    Do you see some similarities between the “Sandernistas” and the “Who is Ron Paul” movements? I sure as heck do.

  18. Jackson Bills

    MoonHowler :
    Wouldn’t that just turn you on!!! You could spend inaugural weekend basking in the afterglow.

    …that is a little creepy. What an odd thing to say.

    1. I believe you were the one who first mentioned afterglow….a day or so ago. I thought it was creepy also when you first said it.

      Hillary in cuffs…not your ordinary Democratic inauguration…. 50 Shades of Bray?

  19. Starryflights

    @Steve Thomas The third scenario is establishment and moderate republicans run a third party candidacy, dividing the party and ensuring a Hillary victory.

    Republican senator: We need ‘third option’ if Trump wins nomination

    Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.), a freshman in office barely one year, took to social media Sunday night to declare that he would not support Donald Trump if he sews up the Republican presidential nomination and formally called for an independent challenge from the right as a conservative option to the real estate billionaire.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/02/28/republican-senator-we-need-third-option-if-trump-wins-nomination/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_gopcivilwar810p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

    1. That’s something to think about.

      Of course, the actual election is light-years away. Much can happen between now and then.

  20. Steve Thomas

    @Starryflights
    Only in your and WaPo’s dreams. Who would the get to run? Romney?

    History rhymes Starry. There were GOP electeds saying the same thing in 1980. But, if it does happen, I’ll buy you dinner.

  21. Censored bybvbl

    @Steve Thomas
    I don’t rule out Starryflight’s scenario. It’s the Republican party which faces a major split. Not so much the Democrats. Establishment Republicans will have to set aside their ethics and personal integrity to pull the lever for Trump. Many will stay home. Many young people will stay home too if Sanders isn’t the nominee. I just don’t see the average person being willing to vote for Trump – only the disaffected who want simple solutions and are easily conned and the lemmings who will vote for anything “R”.

    Maybe Bloomberg will jump in and then it’s anyone’s guess where this ends up.

    It’s been a fun election cycle to watch but thinking people should be aware of where this could go very wrong.

  22. Jackson Bills

    @MoonHowler
    nope, never mentioned ‘afterglow’…

  23. Steve Thomas

    @Censored bybvbl
    “Establishment Republicans will have to set aside their ethics and personal integrity to pull the lever for Trump. ”

    Censored…please read what you wrote, and think about that again in the context of ethics and personal integrity, and how they relate to those who you assume will vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    Also, if you think Bloomberg jumps in and establishment Republicans are going to flock to his campaign, but Hillary voters won’t in equal or greater numbers, you are kidding yourself.

    If you think Hillary will not only survive the FBI investigation, but will ultimately be elected President, why don’t you take the bet? Come’on! Believe in yourself! Believe that we are “Ready for Hillary!”

    1. Wishful thinking on your part, Steve.

      I don’t bet on political candidates. Only horses.

      Once a person goes into the voting booth, all bets are off anyway.

  24. Censored bybvbl

    @Steve Thomas

    Bloomberg’s a wild card. He could hurt either party.

    The Benghazi hearings hurt the Republicans as much as Hillary Clinton at this point. They’re beginning to look like a witch hunt and a lot of people don’t like the idea of women being painted as witch or bitch – take your pick. You can go back and forth on which party did what – Benghazi error or Valerie Plame outing or a hundred other things. I’m an independent. I’m capable of calling out both parties. But I also look at the Supreme Court composition and how it could matter to women. I also look at the potential for idiocy on Trump’s part when it come to foreign relations.

  25. Wolve

    MoonHowler :
    Maybe you are reading too much nonsense on the internet. When did you first start hating her?

    oh, I don’t hate her. I deem her to have no ethics or personal integrity or regard for truth. She appears to be power mad. She also appears to have no common sense or trustworthiness when it comes to handling classified material. I just want her to go away for the sake of the country — at least, what will be left of the country after Obama finishes with it.

    1. Funny, I don’t find her to have those qualities.

      I just see a witch hunt. Same one I saw after Bill Clinton. I stopped listening to it years ago.

  26. Steve Thomas

    @Censored bybvbl
    “It’s been a fun election cycle to watch but thinking people should be aware of where this could go very wrong.”

    I am a thinking person, and I don’t see any way this election doesn’t go “very wrong”, regardless of who is the eventual winner. If Sanders wins, we’ve just decided that socialism (marxism) is our future. If Hillary wins, it means character and integrity are meaningless. If Trump wins, it means we are willing to make a decision out of anger. Regardless, there will be regrets.

  27. Steve Thomas

    @Censored bybvbl
    “The Benghazi hearings hurt the Republicans as much as Hillary Clinton at this point. They’re beginning to look like a witch hunt and a lot of people don’t like the idea of women being painted as witch or bitch – take your pick. ”

    Do you think this is about Benghazi? SWEET BUDDAH ON A RUBBER RAFT!

    News for you Censored: The FBI isn’t building a “Benghazi Case”. It isn’t building an “espionage case” either. The FBI is building a case for prosecution under the RICO and public corruption statutes. When Huma gets questioned under oath, when the rest of her staff gets the same, maybe you will accept reality. She is done. Stick a fork in her, and flip her on the plate.

    Take the bet! I’ll be looking for someplace that serves “Hillary Burgers”.

  28. Wolve

    MoonHowler :
    I am not after Trump because the KKK endorsed him. He has no control over an endorsement. I am concerned over his reaction and denials.
    I haven’t heard Maddow and the WaPo on the subject of commies endorsing candidates. I guess even commies have free speech.

    Trump already gave a middle finger to whatever crowd he is supposed to disavow. What do you want now? Must he stand on his head and yell “To Hell with the KKK”? Kiss Maddow’s derriere? Self-flagellate? Walk barefoot over hot coals?

    Personally, I am much more concerned about the reactions and denials of those who would see Hillary in the Oval Office.

    1. Well, start your own blog if that is what you want. It won’t happen here, despite the veiled bullying.

      What is the thread about? McConnell and the establishment GOP reaction to Trump.

  29. Wolve

    You couldn’t beat the idiocy we have right now with regard to foreign relations. Well, maybe you could — with Hillary or Bernie.

  30. Starryflights

    Steve Thomas :
    @Censored bybvbl
    “The Benghazi hearings hurt the Republicans as much as Hillary Clinton at this point. They’re beginning to look like a witch hunt and a lot of people don’t like the idea of women being painted as witch or bitch – take your pick. ”
    Do you think this is about Benghazi? SWEET BUDDAH ON A RUBBER RAFT!
    News for you Censored: The FBI isn’t building a “Benghazi Case”. It isn’t building an “espionage case” either. The FBI is building a case for prosecution under the RICO and public corruption statutes. When Huma gets questioned under oath, when the rest of her staff gets the same, maybe you will accept reality. She is done. Stick a fork in her, and flip her on the plate.
    Take the bet! I’ll be looking for someplace that serves “Hillary Burgers”.

    The FBI is not building a case for prosecution under the RICO and public corruption statues. You really should do some critical thinking about stuff you read on the Internet and not just believe what somebody tells you to believe.

  31. Steve Thomas

    @Starryflights
    Starry,

    If that’s what you believe, rock on. But I’m not getting this from the internet, or talk radio. Trust me, plenty of critical thinking going on here, plus I know a few people within the organization. While not directly involved, they shed a bit of light on how this appears to be going down.

    Benghazi didn’t violate any laws. The mishandling classified materials does, but this isn’t where the case transitioned from a security audit to a criminal investigation, which expanded to Abedin’s working simultaneously for a consulting firm, the Clinton Global Initiative, and the US Department of State.

    If you will recall, the Clinton’s escaped a RICO case last spring. This was before the revelation of the “private server” came to pass. This was before the FBI got its hands on the “yoga and cookie recipe emails” that were “wiped”, as part of their data recovery efforts.

    I am sure that the FBI has 150 agents working on a non-case, because they have nothing better to do. And Nixon was forced out because of breaking and entering charges too.

    Perhaps it’s you who should engage in a bit more “critical thinking”. Time will prove one of us right.

    1. It must all be from your own private source. There is always an investigation going on about something. I will support her as long as she is running. Why?

      Because she is the candidate closest to supporting my values. I am not at all ashamed of my values. It’s pretty simple. I would vote for her before any one of those 5 on the stage during the last debate.

  32. Censored bybvbl

    For every prosecutor’s case, there’s a defense attorney’s case. (Well, hopefully.) It ain’t over, ’til it’s over.

  33. Steve Thomas

    Censored bybvbl :
    For every prosecutor’s case, there’s a defense attorney’s case. (Well, hopefully.) It ain’t over, ’til it’s over.

    And when it gets to that stage, regardless of a conviction, it’s over…for HRC’s presidential aspirations. You know this is the likely outcome. When the FBI assigns 150 agents to an investigation….there’s plenty of “there, there”.

  34. Censored bybvbl

    I’ve been on grand juries that haven’t given the FBI and federal prosecutors everything they want. We’ll all just have to wait and see.

    My father was an agent as were many of his friends (many of them lawyers). You just have to hope your case is airtight and the grand jury responsive. (I also know that agents have been tasked with looking for waste and abuse in Congress.)

  35. Steve Thomas

    @Censored bybvbl
    Then take the bet! What’s the worst that can happen? Either you will be enjoying a dinner with Moon, toasting the fact that Trump is not your president, or I will be enjoying a dinner with Moon, and she can watch me toast the fact that Hillary isn’t the President…and then we can both have a drink to kill the pain of knowing Trump is the president.

  36. Cargosquid

    @Censored bybvbl
    I think that is his goal anyway. He’s a ringer for the Clintons.

  37. Censored bybvbl

    @Cargosquid
    Yesterday my husband and I were discussing something along that line. What would happen if, after he got the Republican nomination, he said “the joke is on you”. You know he’ll probably try to do as he pleases anyway.

    1. I hate to say this, but if I had to drink poison and have one of those up on the stage as president, I don’t think Trump would be the vilest…close…but not quite as scary as one of the others.

  38. Starry flights

    Mishandling classified information, such as sending such info on unsecured systems, can result in administrative or disciplinary action but is not necessarily a crime. Sharing classifued nformation with one’s mistress, like Petraeus did, certainly is. Big difference. @Steve Thomas

  39. Jackson Bills

    @Starry flights
    Since when did the punishment for mishandling mass amounts of classified information become restricted to administrative or disciplinary action? It is no longer a crime? Do you have any links or proof to back that up? I would be interested in taking a look at your evidence.

  40. Maximus Meridius

    CNN and others are saying today that polls show that Trump losses to Hillary or Bernie but that Rubio or Cruz beat Hillary. The polls say that Bernie beats any Republican. This is all complete nonsense. The outcome of the primaries today and the election in November can’t be predicted by polls. I know that there are people who plan to vote for Trump but won’t admit it unless they are speaking with a friend or someone they trust. Both Mrs. Meridius and I are going to vote for Rubio today but we’re not answering our phone unless caller ID shows it’s someone we know. We’re being inundated by calls from survey groups but are ignoring them. Our support for Rubio is not showing up in these polls. Polls are worthless.

    1. Ha! I am not getting any calls. I am so glad. The Hal Parrish campaign called me no less than 30 times. I guess I have finished my tour of duty.

      I don’t think polls are worth much either nowadays. I think its because of cell phones. I guard my number very carefully and never use it for anything political or sales….I also rarely get bothered with those kinds of calls.

      Many people just have cell phones–no land line. That really throws the count off.

  41. Steve Thomas

    Starry flights :
    Mishandling classified information, such as sending such info on unsecured systems, can result in administrative or disciplinary action but is not necessarily a crime. Sharing classifued nformation with one’s mistress, like Petraeus did, certainly is. Big difference. @Steve Thomas

    Um..Starry, the mistress had a TS clearance with Full-scope poly. What she lacked was “need to know”. Clinton essentially shared the information with China, Russia, North Korea. This wasn’t an accidental spill. This was a deliberate act. But, I predict she will go down on public corruption charges, for selling her office in exchange for “donations” to the Clinton Foundation. Trump may be a rude horses ass, but she’s dirty….yes, I said dirty. Dirty with a capital “D”, which rhymes with “C”…and that stands for “Clinton”.

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