WNCN.com:

ASHEVILLE, N.C. (AP) — Donald Trump stood up for his supporters Monday against Hillary Clinton’s remark that half of his supporters belonged in “a basket of deplorables,” denouncing the comment as “an explicit attack on the American voter” and suggesting that it makes her unfit for the presidency.

But even as Trump defended his backers, one lashed out at protesters in the hall by appearing to punch and slap them. Trump talked through the scuffle.

“While my opponent calls you deplorable and irredeemable,” he said in Asheville, North Carolina, “I call you hard-working American patriots who love their country and want a better future for all our people.”

But his rally was interrupted several times by demonstrators and, at one moment, brief violence.

 

Talk about a big deal from nothing. I hope she planned it. It gives everyone a chance to start enumerating some of the deplorable people who have gone on record supporting Trump.

Should Hillary apologize? Nope. Did Trump apologize for calling Mexicans “racists?”

The thuggery continues.

 

29 thoughts on “Do these dudes belong in the “basket of deplorables?”

  1. Starryflights

    Truth hurts

  2. Robin Hood

    Deplorable!

    Now they are investigating his foundation. Who knew that buying a six foot portrait of the Donald could be a charitable donation? And then there’s the donation to the Florida AG who decided not to investigate Trump University.

    Somebody who lives in a glass house threw the wrong stone.

    1. Hopefully that old adage about reaping what you sow kicks in in the worst way. Karma is a bitch.

    2. Eric the Half a Troll

      @Robin Hood

      He is just a “national disgrace”…

      Credit: Colin Powell

  3. Kelly_3406

    Let’s assume for a moment that Hillary wins the election. Given her health issues, let’s just hope that she would be able to stand up long enough without her knees buckling, her head bobbing uncontrollably, or having a coughing fit to take the oath of office.

    Assuming she completes the oath of office, do you think this kind of rhetoric will unify the nation? She just alienated a substantial part of the electorate.

    If you ever wondered why people despise Hillary, this condescending attitude is a big reason why. It is similar to Obama’s comment about people clinging to God and guns. Nobody ever forgets these types of mocking statements.

    And let’s face it. There is plenty of racist support for Hillary also.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/29/reuters_hillary_clinton_supporters_are_pretty_racist_too.html

    1. That is such a cheap shot–haven’t you ever been sick? That’s the main reason women rarely admit to being sick. They always under-play it.

      I pretty much agree with her about people being deplorable, starting with Trump. I guess you think its ok to make the sweeping generalizations about Mexicans being rapists and Muslims being terrorists?

    2. The Democrats simply aren’t running a campaign that is based on denigrating groups of people. I don’t care what Slate or its polls say.
      What racist support do you think Hillary is getting? Do you think the Hillary supporters are supporting her because she is white? female? a senior citizen? A grandparent?

    3. Dump Trump

      @Kelly_3406

      At least there’s a cure for Clinton’s illness. Trump mental health issues are much harder to treat, especially since he isn’t seeking treatment.

      Some of our best presidents, including FDR, have had health issues and they didn’t seem to impede his performance. I’ll take a sick Hilary over a (physically) fit Trump any day.

      1. FDR also had a foundation–the Warm Springs Foundation. People thought it was admirable.

    4. Robin Hood

      The difference is that you can count the times Clinton and Obama say something wrong.

      With Trump it’s a daily event, so his episodes are countless! That really is deplorable.

      @Kelly_3406

  4. NorthofNokesville

    A few thoughts…

    “The Democrats simply aren’t running a campaign that is based on denigrating groups of people.”

    Except for the deplorables. I don’t like the sweeping over-generalization from either side, and yes, they are coming from both sides. And not caring what a poll says doesn’t invalidate it. Hillary is most certainly getting support from some people who have racists views, or act like thugs when the time comes (you can Google “Philapelphia Black Panther polling place monitor” at your leisure.

    Left and right, some people vote conscience or what they think is, others vote interests (there’s a lot of D voters whose livelihood depends on the expansion of the state, same as R’s), most probably a combination.

    The health issue could have been a small one, at one time, but no longer. That cat doesn’t go back in the bag. And the pattern is eerily similar to Bill Clinton’s sexual imbroglio (ok, I realize that needs to be more specific.. the one for which he was impeached). In both cases you have denial (“didn’t have sex with that woman” and repeated insistence HRC’s not sick). Denial is followed by a damning and embarrassing revelation (blue dress and collapsing on national television). The revelation opens up more revelations (cigars,etc in Bill’s case, and the repeated issues with HRC). The last stage is the worst – because now there are two issues: the underlying cause (sex, illness, whatever) and the following cover-up and lies. The latter is ultimately more damning. X (whatever it is) might be forgivable or recoverable. Lying about X casts into doubt everything else.

    It’s come to the point where even people who still favor HRC have to admit this is a disaster. It’s loosely akin to the Eagleton debacle, and ironic that the thinly-veiled HRC character in 1998’s Primary Colors (Susan Stanton, played memorably by Emma Thompson) bemoans Eagleton on several occasions.

    Don’t know if it makes the outcome different. The elections markets still favor HRC 2 to 1, though that’s tightened and the congressional control odds have gotten redder.

    And now the leaks …. welcome to election season.

    1. The deplorable are denoted as such because of their behavior. We can no longer pretend they don’t exist. It’s one thing to have different political beliefs about policy. That is not what we are talking about.

      Reminder–Bill isn’t running for office.

      I favor Hillary over Trump. No, I don’t think she is a disaster at all. She is the most qualified. That’s really all that needs to be said.

      1. NorthofNokesville

        @MoonHowler

        Agree. But that behavior – the inability to confront disagreement with anything other than force or invocation of authorities to shut it down – goes across the board. It’s sad, and I’m not defending it, just saying it’s not unique to Trump supporters.

        I know Bill isn’t running (apparently, according to Colin Powell and the NY police he’s got extracurriculars to keep himself busy), it’s just a pattern echo.

        All in all, it’s a sad time for the country (and state, and county). And it reminds me of reading the real revolutionaries. Remember your Proudhon: “To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.”

        To which I say, pretty much.

      2. punchak

        @NorthofNokesville

        Phew !!!!! That was just about the longest sentence I´ve
        ever read.

      3. I have never felt that way about my government. I have always been rather neutral about it.

  5. Steve Thomas

    This is just a distraction. Clinton couldn’t have picked a worse time for a gaff. Her campaign’s lack of transparency and lame attempts to minimize her clear health issues, including dismissing theories as conspiracy, backfired on her when she face-planted into a van, and was thrown in like a sack of rice. Allergies. “Overheated”. No one bought those excuses, so they’ve settled on “Pneumonia”.

    I guess the campaign expects us to forget her past fainting spells, her fractured elbow, and the infamous concussion/blood clot which stalled her appearance before the Benghazi hearings. No one buys this, well, because the Clintons slow-roll lies all the time. Even David Axlerod is skeptical.

    And if the public isn’t buying it, and believes she’s quite ill, it’s her own fault. She’s a pathological liar. I believe she has something terminal, like Parkinsons.

    Her deplorables remark, and the media buzz about it is a distraction form the fact that she’s a very ill woman. I am interested in how she plans to handle the debates…standing for 90 minutes, without fainting or coughing up a lung.

    1. You proved her point. Right wing conspiracy.
      Now how about those income taxes and medical reports from your guy?

      “Very ill woman??” Thank you Doctor Thomas.

      1. Steve Thomas

        @MoonHowler

        How did I prove her point? If it’s happening, it ain’t a conspiracy. For whatever reason, her campaign has chosen the strategy of denigrating anyone who questions her health. The trouble is, she’s had issues in the past, and when it was convenient, she used them for political advantage.

        But the record shows she’s had a series of falls, some resulting in serious injury, including a concussion and a blood clot.

        So the coughing starts a good while back, and appears with predictable regularity. Whole montages have been created.

        The myriad of explanations given only fuel speculation, mostly because she again appears to be slow-rolling the eventual truth, again demonstrating her lack of trustworthiness.

        So when she’s filmed being led away, and someone later identified as her doctor performing a “squeeze test”, collapsing and having to be loaded into a van…this only supports a narrative that’s been building for years: she has chronic health problems, and they appear to be worsening.

        The press isn’t covering for her en masse anymore.

      1. Steve Thomas

        @Robin Hood

        Hold off on that until my t-shirt and bumper-sticker arrive. If you seek to throw me in the basket, at least wait until I have the required swag.

    2. Dump Trump

      @Steve Thomas

      I do wish that Clinton had been more open about her health since it gives her enemies unnecessary fodder. Of course, she wouldn’t have satisfied them no matter what she released.

      It’s funny that there is such a yuge double standard on health records for Trump & Clinton. Same with their foundations. The Clinton foundation gets scrutinized for every penny. The Trump foundation gets ignored. Clinton’s health records are an issue, but Trump’s aren’t.

      What’s good for the goose should be good for the gander. In other words, all the people complaining about Clinton should hold Trump to that same standard and see how he looks.

  6. NorthofNokesville

    Rightwing conspiracy starting to include NYT and WaPo. Cat’s out of the bag… and again, HRC made it into two issues: is she ok? and is she honest? And unfortunately for her, the answer to #1, even if “Yep, ok” does not mean the answer to #2 is yes.

    I will say this re: technological incompetence, it is not limited to the principals.

    DNC has email hacked. Emails out new password.

    https://twitter.com/BrentTeichman/status/776036891766382592

    Those who seek to govern are often unfit that task, or many others.

    1. Most women I know never admit to being sick, or at least as sick as they are–myself included. It’s seen as a sign of weakness.

      I expect Hillary is no different, in particular, with a MC pig opponent like Trump who would use it against her. I am not sure what you are referring to with the WaPo. Check out what Kathleen Parker has to say about being female and illness.

      1. NorthofNokesville

        @MoonHowler

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/11/hillary-clintons-health-just-became-a-real-issue-in-the-presidential-campaign/

        WaPo agrees cat’s out of the bag.

        I agree generally on mothers, female professionals being more stoic in that regard. I see it firsthand. Not sure how relevant that is for HRC… most mom’s and female professionals don’t make a quarter-mil per talk, have an entourage, or have their health considered a factor in a race for the world’s most powerful office. And I’ve never heard another woman offer three different explanations. And that’s become the issue… the cover-up and pattern echo from Bill.

      2. Oh dear God. She did get overheated and Chris Cilliza really is full of crap. I was watching the ceremony and everyone there was covered with sweat. As one of those people who gets overheated and fainty, I totally understand, especially if she already has a slight infection.

        Not to quote Hillary but what difference does it make? Is this what you all are doing to make up for the fact that you have one of the sh!ttiest candidates ever? There is no conspiracy and she doesn’t need to give the public every detail of her life. Thank goodness she is probably post menopausal or you all would want the damn details on that.

      3. Steve Thomas

        @MoonHowler

        If it was just a simple case of forgetting to drink enough water, and getting a bit light-headed, why is the question of who should replace her (should her health force her out) being polled?

        http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/which_democrat_should_replace_hillary

      4. Rasmussen reports? Bwahahahahahahaha. Because a poll is done? Are you attempting to assign some sort of cause and effect to a poll?

        Apparently you have never suffered from getting overheated. It really isn’t a matter of drinking enough water. How would we measure that? What is enough water?

        What if (God forbid–choke choke) Trump drops over dead. Who should replace him? That is actually just as valid of a question.

        Why don’t women discuss their illnesses? I am in disbelief that you even need to ask.

      5. Robin Hood

        Rasmussen is a Republican outfit, just like Faux News. Consider the source and ignore it.

        @Steve Thomas

      6. No, the WaPo doesn’t AGREE. One person gave his opinion. One person. He does not speak for the paper.

        They are on TV asking for results of Trump’s colonoscopy and his testosterone level. Who cares. I am one of those who just feel that is personal information and we, the public, don’t have a right to know that.

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