I wish I were a bookmaker. Who will be next to be voted off the White House?  I am guessing KellyAnn will be the next to go?  I want Miller and Bannon gone.

Will anyone be a survivor?  One down and many to go!

31 thoughts on “A nation in crisis: The Shady Bunch

  1. Robin Hood

    I lived through Watergate. This seems like a sequel. It took Nixon five years to come apart. Trump is doing it in less than a month.

    1. Robin, I just had that conversation yesterday! That Trump–faster than a speeding bullet. But are we surprised?

  2. If we’re playing tic-tac-toe, I’m banking on the left column.

    1. Joe George,

      Now we have found out that Steve Bannon is a wife abuser, I would go bottom left diagonally.

      I want Miller gone too, sooner rather than later.

  3. Jerome Doublas

    If I didn’t know any better looks like you want this President to fail, is that right?

    Also, and I’m generally curious… what is it exactly about Bannon that you hate so much besides the 20+ year old police report of him grabbing her wrist after she spit on him?

    You have stuck up from alcoholic wife abusers here before who were accused of much much worse (Ed Shultz comes to mind). So aside from this incident what exactly is your main issue with Bannon?

    1. The president IS failing. Can’t you see that? The entire White House runs on crisis mode. The situation endangers the nation. What will they do when a real emergency comes along (and one will). No one has the experience to guide us through crisis. It isn’t what I want. It is what is happening.

      Bannon- How do YOU know what happened? Were you there? It sounds like you bought the spin. Actually, that is secondary. He has no experience governing, he lies, he invents his own factoids, and he ran Brietbart. As you recall, I don’t even want that “news source” quoted on this blog. I feel he is unfit.

      Please tell me you don’t think these people are performing admirably.

  4. Jerome Doublas

    Bannon- How do YOU know what happened? Were you there? It sounds like you bought the spin.

    I read the police report… From the 1/1/1996 police report:

    “[Piccard] said she spit at him, and [he] reached up to her from the driver’s seat of his car and grabbed her left wrist. He pulled her down, as if he was trying to pull into the car, over the door. [Piccard] said Mr. Bannon grabbed at neck, also pulling her into the car. She said that she started to fight back, striking at his face”

    So you don’t like Bannon because he has no governing experience, you think he lies and he ran a news site that you don’t like. Is that it?

    1. That will do for a start. The inexperience at governing for a chief of staff? Doesn’t seem like the best attributes for someone with a position that important. Bannon peddled disinformation for years. He has created an alternate reality. No, thinking people don’t want that.

      Do you think that behavior is acceptable? A lot more than that was reported. His two baby twins were supposedly also present.

      I would hope you wouldn’t think these things are acceptable. I would hope all Americans would find these behaviors distasteful and nationally dangerous.

      1. Jerome Doublas

        @MoonHowler

        The inexperience at governing for a chief of staff?

        Sure, that could be an issue and I don’t argue that but hopefully there are enough people surrounding him with experience.

        Do you think that behavior is acceptable?

        Of course I don’t. I never have and you know that. I have called that type of behavior out here before with Ed Shultz (who is now paid to spread propaganda for state run Russian media) and you dismissed it. Does domestic violence only matter depending on the political views of the offender?

        But that is besides the point… you obviously disliked him before this was discovered but the only reasons you have mentioned is that you don’t like the news site he ran. Can you provide some examples of the disinformation that you’re concerned with?

      2. I don’t think I defended Ed Schultz. I have never been a real big fan of Schultz. He also wasn’t being paid by our government. Nor was he given great authority. But as I said, spousal abuse is way down my list on why I feel he is unacceptable.

        I can’t think of any experienced people surrounding Bannon. That is also a problem at the State Dept right now. There is a huge brain drain going on in Washington right now.

        Did you see that press conference? Were you horrified at the rambling, free association, disrespect?

      3. Jerome Doublas

        @MoonHowler

        Okay, so the highest ranked reasons why you think that Bannon is unacceptable (from what I can gather from your posts) is inexperience and you do not like the news site he ran and his lying.

        Do I have that right or am I missing something? Also, still waiting on a few examples of his ‘years of disinformation’ that ranks either #1 or #2 on your list.

        Also, just to come back to something you said earlier: The president IS failing. Can’t you see that? The entire White House runs on crisis mode. The situation endangers the nation.

        Today is what, day 24 or 25 of this new Presidency? What is/are the metric(s) that you go by to judge a ‘failing’ Presidency? What constitutes ‘crisis mode’ to you? You may be surprised by how much I might agree with you here but I’m just curious as to what your definition is of ‘failing’ and ‘crisis mode’ are.

      4. He has a very important job and he has no governing experience. I absolutely loath the views of his news site. He propagates disinformation which to me is lying.

        My problem with Trump is lying and his vicious attacks on people. He is unpresidential. The White House is in disarray. Trump has alienated the press, the intelligence community, other countries. His press conference was a disaster. It lacked focus and was demeaning to those who asked questions.

      5. I just saw your girlfriend on TV, Linda Sarsour. She absolutely is not an anti-semite, at least as far as I could tell.

  5. kelly_3406

    I think Trump is doing pretty well.

    Nearly all of his nominees are confirmed despite delaying tactics by the D’s — even Pruitt received some democratic support.

    Mattis has taken a hard line against the Russians and Tillerson is cleaning house at State.

    Trump plans a re-write of the EO on immigration, which people will approve because it shows that he does not give up. This particular course of action will likely address the 9th Circuit’s concerns and thus will undermine the narrative of Mussolini-like fascism.

    After the illegal release of intelligence data to kill off the career of Flynn, heads need to roll. Let’s see if he addresses the intelligence community next.

    Trump seems to have established a new normal for dealing with the media. Given that the nation trusts the media even less than it does Trump, there is really no down-side to giving them a good butt-kicking at every opportunity, other than incessant whining from inside the Beltway.

    I would like him to show more discipline in his messaging and stop mentioning HRC and his electoral college win. In many ways, he is very immature. If he can start looking forward and focus his speeches on what he wants to accomplish, he can win over more people who are already unhappy with the status quo.

    1. Robin Hood

      Pardon me for laughing out loud. Is your real name Kellyanne?

      kelly_3406,

      1. kelly_3406

        Pardon me for looking bored. What a predictable reaction from someone who is invested in the status quo.

        Robin Hood,

      2. Robin Hood

        The only status quo I’m invested in is Medicare and Social Security. You don’t know me.

        kelly_3406,

    2. Pruitt is so unacceptable. How can someone be appointed who wants do dissolve the EPA? Who doesn’t want clean air, clean water, etc?

      Many of his appointees should have been delayed. He made some choices that really are the antithesis of what the department is supposed to do.

      Contrast that with not even giving someone a hearing when the president was still…well, the president. I will never forgive the Republicans for that stunt.

      I don’t think your assessment of the nation and the media can be substantiated. I don’t know anyone who “distrusts the media” as a collective group. There are stations and websites I distrust buy in general, I have not a problem with them.

      Only a fool would start a war with the media and intelligence organizations.

      I agree, he is immature. Can I throw in bigoted, out of control, and incompetent for the job he has? He will never win people like me over.

      1. kelly_3406

        MoonHowler:

        Contrast that with not even giving someone a hearing when the president was still…well, the president.I will never forgive the Republicans for that stunt.

        I don’t think your assessment of the nation and the media can be substantiated.I don’t know anyone who “distrusts the media” as a collective group.There are stations and websites I distrust buy in general, I have not a problem with them.

        Since you did not help elect any of those Republicans, I am positive that your forgiveness is not a big priority for them.

        As for the media, even the Huffington Post agrees that few people trust them:

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trust-in-media_us_57148543e4b06f35cb6fec58

        A new Fox News poll discussed by Howard Kurtz shows that 68% of Americans think that the media is tougher on Trump than it was on Obama:

        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/17/fox-news-poll-voters-divided-over-trusting-trump-or-media.html

        Nevertheless, I commiserate with how you feel. I thought Obama was an absolute disaster. His foolish foreign policy and his incessant attacks on my beliefs and values were hard to take. I guess it is your turn now with Trump.

      2. I suppose. If you had ascribed my feelings about George W. Bush I would agree with you. I disagreed with his policies. However, I thought he was a decent human being, one with whom I just happened to disagree with a lot of the time.

        That really isn’t how I feel about Trump. I feel he is morally bankrupt, incompetent to govern and basically dangerous because of his mental health. He is also costing this country a fortune with his extravagant lifestyle. I would never trust a bunch of rich billionaires to look out for my best interests.

        I would also never trust an opinion poll thrown out by Faux News. That is the seat of my initial distrust. I also don’t trust the Daily Kos, just for the record. I attempt to get my news as neutrally as I can. I usually go to more than one source.

        As for my forgiveness–every vote counts as one. Lots of folks are out there just like me. Many have been awakened from their apathy. We shall see. Not holding a hearing for Judge Garland, simply because the sitting president was President Obama, is deplorable.

        Everything about Trump and most of his band of merry incompetents offends my value system.

      3. kelly_3406

        MoonHowler:

        As for my forgiveness–every vote counts as one.Lots of folks are out there just like me.Many have been awakened from their apathy.We shall see.Not holding a hearing for Judge Garland, simply because the sitting president was President Obama, is deplorable.

        Hearings were denied not because the sitting president was Obama, but because R’s did not want to be on record as voting against Garland. On the surface, Garland was qualified to be on the Supreme Court.

        However, judges nominated by D’s always (ALWAYS) turn out to be more liberal than advertised. Garland would have voted consistently with the liberal bloc — gun rights were at risk, personal freedoms were at risk.

        Republican senators would have been been held accountable by Republican voters and donors (like me) if Garland was confirmed. They did not want to face wrathful Republican voters who are fed up with the Republican establishment. At the same time, they did not want to be excoriated by the press for voting against a “qualified” nominee.

        Refusing to hold hearings was the easy way out. Press criticism was relatively muted because it was so widely accepted that HRC would win and Garland would get his chance after the election.

      4. It was Constitutionally Obama’s job to appoint a justice. There is simply no way to justify not holding a hearing. You are trying to defend the indefensible.

        Sometimes Republican nominees turn out to be more liberal also. Justice Kennedy springs to mind.

  6. Kelly_3406

    I read a variety of articles from both the left and the right, and it is almost like the reporting is from two different Earth-like planets. For example, the NY Times reports that Trump’s approval rating is about 40% while Rasmussen finds it to be ~55%.

    Just as it was for the election, I suspect Trump’s approval is under-reported, and is probably close to 50%.

    The divergence in reporting gives the discerning reader plenty of reason not to take any single article at face value.

    1. Rasmussen is not used much any more because it has the reputation of being so biased.

      Maybe 50 percent is right. Who knows. I am sure there will be a flood of more reliable polls out soon.

      The question is, how do YOU think he is doing? Does the chest bumping with Russia not disturb you? Does it bother you that someone with Trump’s temperament has the nuclear codes? Does the nasty, hideous way he talks to people bother you?

      What is it he is doing that you like?

      1. kelly_3406

        MoonHowler:
        Rasmussen is not used much any more because it has the reputation of being so biased.

        And yet Rasmussen proved to be more accurate for the election than many of the “trusted” polls.

        What do I like about Trump so far:
        1) His SCOTUS nomination of Gorsuch;
        2) His choices of Mattis, Tillerson, Pruitt ….
        3) His approval of the Keystone pipeline;
        4) His focus on reducing regulation to improve US competitiveness;
        5) His strengthening of immigration enforcement;
        6) His focus on re-building the military and infrastructure.

        Would I like Trump to be nicer and behave better? Of course. But I do like that he defends himself rather than just take it like Romney did. My choice was between HRC, whom I disagree with on just about everything, and Trump, whom I agree with on some things especially on SCOTUS nominees, but is not very nice. The choice was not hard.

        Am I concerned about Trump having nuclear codes? No. I have never seen Trump do anything against his self-interest (except run his mouth too much). It certainly would not be in his interest to start a nuclear war.

        Am I concerned about Trump’s chest bumping with Russia? The jury is still out on that one. Trump made some reassuring statements this week regarding Russia. Mattis presented a hard line with Russia this week. I will have my eye on it.

      2. I simply don’t want a president whose behavior is deplorable.

        1. ok–I understand
        2. Pruitt is another deplorable. Why appoint someone who wants to destroy an agency? Why don’t you want clean air and clean water?
        3. Again, screwing up the environment. Disregarding sacred lands,
        4. specifics please.
        5. You want perfectly innocent people rounded up and deported? Question–have you ever personally known anyone who is undocumented? How are they hiring you?
        6. What about the military needs rebuilding?

      3. Kelly, What do you think of how Rex Tillerson is being treated by Trump? There are all these little mini secretaries of state running around contradicting the work that Tillerson is trying to do. It is being described by many conservatives as chaotic.

        Secretary of State? Who would even want the job.

      4. Kelly, What do you think of how Rex Tillerson is being treated by Trump? There are all these little mini secretaries of state running around contradicting the work that Tillerson is trying to do. It is being described by many conservatives as chaotic.

        Secretary of State? Who would even want the job.

        I also forgot to ask you why you wanted the Keystone Pipeline.

  7. Pat.Herve

    Trump liked the leaks when it was against HRC – even dared Wikileaks to leak more.

    Trump – using Mar-A-Lago – and having Secret Service pay Trump’s company for rooms to protect Trump himself. Talk about self-serving. Imagine if any other President has Secret Service paying rack rates at a hotel they owned. If business is slow at Mar-A-Lago – Trump will come down for a weekend – and book the place up.

    Creating false news – like the Sweden comment – is he just doing this to market to his base of conspiracy theorists? Or he just spouts something out.

    1. All I can think of is, if a Democrat even did one of the things you mentioned, the Party Faithful would be howling, pissing and moaning.

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