I am dedicating this thread to you. Why? Because I felt your pain. Just for a moment.
You have continually said that gun ownership is a right and that you shouldn’t have to apply or register to bear arms because doing so was a right. (or something to that effect.)
I feel like I am having to dance and jump through hoops just to be able to vote. I think everyone here knows that I have a bad knee and that on any given day it could make me unable to go to the polls. I also have breathing issues but that is another story.
I like to vote by mail. It’s easier, it is legitimate, and it ensures that I will be able to vote in the event that the knee is acting up. So, tonight I thought to myself…I had better apply for that absentee ballot since March 1 is right around the corner.
Finally I find how to apply online. It is fairly well hidden. Then I started filling out the form. Nothing is intuitive. The form has changed since last time. Now I had to give a social security number and….tah daaaaaaaxahhhhhhh…..my DMV number so that my signature can be compared.
Why must I do all this just to be able to vote? Voting is a right. I shouldn’t have to go through all this bullshit. My knee hurts. I don’t feel like limping to the foyer to get my purse.
Where is the voter fraud? Show me where the voter fraud is and I might feel just a little bit better about going through all this malarky. Why would someone say they were me, risk going to prison just so they could cast a vote, in my name? How absurd.
Cargo, I feel about voting like you do about guns. It is much easier to own a gun than it is to vote. Tell me, when you buy a mail order gun, does DMV have to be involved to compare your signature? I seriously doubt it. If I am wrong, please tell me.
RICHMOND — Gov. Terry McAuliffe plans to announce Friday that Virginia will restore handgun reciprocity agreements with nearly all states, in a stunning reversal of a firearms policy that had angered Republicans and gun rights advocates across the nation.
The about-face is part of a deal that McAuliffe (D) struck with Republican leaders one month after Attorney General Mark R. Herring (D) ended the right of gun owners in 25 states to have their concealed carry permits recognized in Virginia.
In exchange, Republicans will agree to a major concession: Anyone subject to a permanent protective order for a domestic violence offense will be prohibited from carrying a firearm for the two-year life of the order. The issue had been a nonstarter in the Republican-controlled General Assembly.
“This is a bipartisan deal that will make Virginians safer,” McAuliffe spokesman Brian Coy said. “It also demonstrates that Democrats and Republicans can work together on key issues like keeping guns out of dangerous hands.”
The agreement marks the first break in a logjam in the state over gun rights and gun control marked by heated rhetoric on both sides.
The NRA applauds the bi-partisan agreement. Not all the gun groups do, however.
There were other concessions made:
It includes an amendment offered by Sen. Chap Petersen (D-Fairfax City) that says Virginia will not honor an out-of-state concealed carry permit held by a person whose Virginia concealed carry permit was previously revoked — a practice known as “state shopping.”
In another concession, state police must be present at all gun shows to administer background checks in private sales of guns on a voluntary basis. McAuliffe’s budget includes $100,000 to fund the activity.
Those seem like common sense ideas that might make us a little bit safer. Those are all measures that make most of the voters happy–all but the most strident of the gun activists.
“It needs to be very clear that these buildings will never, ever return to the federal government,” said LaVoy Finicum, one of the leaders of the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.”
Tinicum’s words sound to be like enemy take over of our lands. They get what they deserve including being shot.yI am all for not making martyrs of these criminals but they also have seized government property.
They need to be removed. Apparently they have free egress to come and go at will. That needs to stop. Let’s see how long they last with limited food and water. They want to play hardball. So do I.
Somehow this speech and executive order will be contrived to mean that Obama will come round up everyone’s gun. No. That isn’t going to happen. No Obama in combat boots knocking on anyone’s door.
One of the breakdowns I have heard that I think will be fixed is people being allowed to buy Tommy guns and similar type machine guns under the guise of a corporate trust. Apparently the number of people filing this kind of paper work has increased exponentially. I am one of those people who just don’t think civilians need this kind of fire power.
My own Congressman has already bellowed and moaned about the President’s actions. My own Congressman represents me on almost nothing, however. He plays to the ideologues on nearly every issue.
Then I have to remind myself that I had the only Obama sign in my yard in 2012. My street is a long one. It goes from Splashdown to Vint Hill Road. The sign was my husband’s sign. He worked the Obama campaign. That’s a long road for only one little ole sign.
The polls seem to support this latest initiative. Furthermore, Obama has the lowest number of executive orders of any president since Grover Cleveland. Go figure.
RICHMOND — Virginia Attorney General Mark R. Herring announced Tuesday that the commonwealth will no longer recognize out-of-state concealed handgun permits, part of a national push to circumvent legislatures opposed to tightening gun laws.
Herring (D) said 25 states have lax laws compared with Virginia, where a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental health treatment can disqualify someone from carrying a concealed handgun. The move is in step with actions governors and attorneys general are taking to address gun violence without going through Republican-controlled legislatures.
“While you are here, you are subject to the commonwealth’s gun laws,” Herring said during a news conference.
But Herring’s office could not say how many people are suspected of crossing into Virginia with concealed weapons to commit crimes, and Republican lawmakers sharply criticized the move, which enforces laws already on the books.
Nevertheless, more than 6.3 million people who could legally carry concealed handguns into Virginia today will lose the privilege when the change takes effect next year. An additional 420,000 Virginians with concealed-carry permits will no longer enjoy reciprocity when they travel to six states.
Help me out here folks. I have no idea what part of this means. I understand that people with permits from lax states will not have their permits honored in Virginia.
Who are the 6.3 million people who are going to lose the privilege of concealed-carry?
Why will 420,000 Virginians be cut off from reciprocity? Is that automatic?
The 420,000 number is just about the same number of uninsured Virginians because the General Assembly won’t approve Medicaid funds. Perhaps a deal could be struck. I suppose that is an argument for another post.
The following New York Times opinion piece by the editorial board appeared on the front page of the newspaper on Saturday, December 5. It is the first time an opinion has appeared on page 1 since 1920.
End the Gun Epidemic in America
It is a moral outrage and national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency.
All decent people feel sorrow and righteous fury about the latest slaughter of innocents, in California. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies are searching for motivations, including the vital question of how the murderers might have been connected to international terrorism. That is right and proper.
But motives do not matter to the dead in California, nor did they in Colorado, Oregon, South Carolina, Virginia, Connecticut and far too many other places. The attention and anger of Americans should also be directed at the elected leaders whose job is to keep us safe but who place a higher premium on the money and political power of an industry dedicated to profiting from the unfettered spread of ever more powerful firearms.
It is a moral outrage and a national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency. These are weapons of war, barely modified and deliberately marketed as tools of macho vigilantism and even insurrection. America’s elected leaders offer prayers for gun victims and then, callously and without fear of consequence, reject the most basic restrictions on weapons of mass killing, as they did on Thursday. They distract us with arguments about the word terrorism. Let’s be clear: These spree killings are all, in their own ways, acts of terrorism.
RICHMOND, Va. (WUSA9) — Stymied in the state legislature, Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe just took new gun restrictions into his own hands.
The governor signed an executive order Thursday banning firearms in most state government buildings and empowering the Attorney General to prosecute illegal gun sales.
Up until the governor’s order, almost everyone was legally entitled to carry a firearm into the DMV in Virginia.
Governor McAuliffe handed to pen he used to sign Executive Order 50 to the parents of murdered WDBJ reporter Alison Parker and argued the measures will help reduce gun violence.
“No more excuses. No more politics. No more senseless deaths while elected leaders play partisan petty games,” McAuliffe said.
The ban on openly carrying guns applies immediately to all state buildings the governor controls. He also hopes to ban people with concealed carry permits from bringing their guns in, but that process could take a month.
To date, there is no ban on concealed carry. I am assuming those guns with a permit can still be carried anywhere.
Let’s have this discussion explain why anyone should have a gun in state buildings. For the life of me, I can’t see carrying a long rifle into the governors mansion. The Capitol and General Assembly have no gun bans as they are under the control of the General Assembly.
I can understand not wanting guns in the DMV. Too tempting, just too tempting.