These are NOT the same video.
[There are] … transcripts of a guy named Jerry Boykin, retired general and a guy named Frank Gaffney explaining their cockamamy conspiracy theory that Hillary Clinton had secretly rigged the Egyptian elections to favor the Muslim brotherhood. people in Egypt read that. They did not know the people who were talking were wing nut right wing conspiracy theorists.
Those same right wing nut jobs have also said that Anthony Weiner’s wife, was an instrument of the Muslim Brotherhood. They also asserted that if the US passed any immigration reform, “we’d all be wearing ragheads.” What do you expect from a group that says Roe vs. Wade is Sharia law?
You don’t have to go to the Middle East to hear crazy talk.
Meanwhile, after the series of blunders by Mitt Romney as he desperately tried to comment on foreign policy, the Republicans plop their appointed 2nd in command down in the middle of all this?
What were they thinking? There aren’t that many stupid Americans and there isn’t enough tin foil.
UPDATE: Confirmed reports indicate that the person killed was the U.S, Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens. Information is being updated by the minute. 4 Americans in all were killed. Ambassador Stevens helped free the Libyan people. President Obama issued the following statement:
“I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives. I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.”
Demonstrators attacked a U.S. consulate in Libya, killing one American, and breached the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, amid angry protests over a film by a U.S. producer that mocks and insults the Prophet Muhammad.
The movie, “Innocence of Muslims,” was directed and produced by an Israeli-American real-estate developer who characterized it as a political effort to call attention to the hypocrisies of Islam. It has been promoted by Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of Qurans previously sparked deadly riots around the world.
Each of us remembers 9-11 in our own way. It has been 11 years. In many ways, on this day we are stuck in a time warp of disbelief and will forever visualize those planes hitting the buildings, the falling bodies, the crumpling buildings and that huge cloud of poisonous debris hurling forward at those trying to escape its fury. When do we move on from those horrible visuals to a quieter more reflective mood?
It’s another clear, cripsy fall Tuesday in September, just like 9/11/01. I am going to try to start today. I may not make it. Feel free to share your 9/11 thoughts.
Disclaimer: All guest posts are the opinion of the poster and do not necessarily represent the views of moonhowlings.net administration.
M-H
9/11 at 11: the lost United States of 10 September 2001
September 11, 2001 is a milestone date in history that nearly everyone living at the time will recall in detail for the rest of their lives. I will always remember sitting at my desk in my office at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama, eyes fixed on the television in the credenza sitting on the other side of the room. I recall watching the towers fall and wondering how it would change America.
Like this 10 September, 10 September 2001 was a Monday. The only reason I know that is because it was the day before an enormous tragedy that is permanently etched into my mind, and that happened on a Tuesday. I went to the same office and sat at the same desk on Monday as I did on Tuesday, but I have no recollection of one day and a vivid recollection of the other. Even though I do not recall any of the details of Monday 10 September, sometimes I think about how America might be different if we could turn back the clock.
Moe explains the process that one goes through upon exiting the military as far as what you are and are not able to do. He says there is no time limit on classified information.
Matt Bissonnette is a former navy seal who claims the book, “No Easy Day,” is not political. Moe Davis says the author clearly knew he was violating the exit terms of agreement–regulations he signed. Davis also states that the book is clearly political.
[Correction: The book will be released 9/11/12. It is a best seller on Amazon in pre-sales].
The book has been released and is already a best seller on Amazon. It was not vetted. It needed to be. It is undetermined if Bissonnette will be prosecuted. Should he be punished? Is he a traitor or a hero? Did he leak classified information? This issue will probably be argued for a decade.
Meanwhile, Colonel Davis sees the book as a lose/lose situation for the Obama administration.
The following is the opinion of the poster and does not necessarily represent the views of moonhowlings.net administration.
M-H
I was amused last week as I heard one of our bloggers accuse Moe Davis of being an ‘Obama Boy.’ I would say he fits in no one’s niche. He is his own man. I don’t agree totally with Moe but I respect his opinion and willingly accept that he was there and I wasn’t. He also knows the law a little better than I do.
The final analysis must come from Mark Twain:
It is difference of opinion that makes horse races.
Will anyone ever be tried for war crimes? Is the USA duplicitous or hypocritical?
I really haven’t minded killing terrorists. I think that is why we have spent about 10 years at war, ringing up billions of tax dollars belonging to the American people–to rid of world of terrorists. Gaddafi was a terrorist. He has been a terrorist my entire adult life. Just because the United States eased up on him a little makes him no less a terrorist and I truly believe he had a paw print on the Lockabie terrorist attack.
Now, having said all that, no, I don’t mind that he was killed and no I don’t mind that he met the business end of one of our drones. I don’t believe that us being involved made droning him a political assassination.
I do believe what I saw on TV was wrong. I know when I first started watching the video clip, he was alive. Words were coming out of his mouth. I don’t know what they meant but they were his words. Then I saw his assassination and his body desecrated. I saw him kicked and spat on in death. That is taking it too far. Is that was all this war was about? It appears to me that we have gone from bad to worse. Those killers were animals. Have we turned over an entire country to people who behave like this and defile others in death? Might as well have kept Gaddafi. At least he pretended to have a modicum of civility. The Libyans we saw on TV finishing off their leader for decades represent an evil side of mankind. If that is sharia law, let’s just stick with anarchy or dictators.
Much has been said since the death of Bin Laden about how the aftermath was handled. And yes, there are already conspiracy theorists popping up. Are they the deathers–the ones who don’t believe he is really dead?
Currently the debate is whether to release the photos of dead Osama Bin Laden. Are the pictures too gross? Will his followers get them and martyr him even further? Or is it just in bad taste? According to CNN, 56% of Americans want to see the pictures of him dead.
Just released: Osama Bin Laden has been killed in a CIA operation. US ground forces were involved. The USA is in possession of his body. DNA testing was be done.
The President is due to speak soon. Updates to this post will be supplied as information becomes available.
The impact on the troops will be tremendous, according to military spokespersons.
The man-hunt is over but we must continue to be vigilent. We can never let our guard down. The war against Al Qada is not over.
An Iraqi man killed his 19-year-old daughter after he discovered al-Qaida had recruited her as a suicide bomber in an area north of Baghdad, a police spokesman said on Friday.
Al-Qaida has been recruiting women for suicide attacks because they can pass police checkpoints easier than men by concealing explosives under an abaya, a loose, black cloak that conservative Muslim women wear. Suicide bombers have been al-Qaida’s most lethal weapon in Iraq, killing hundreds of civilians and members of Iraq’s security forces.
The killing of the young woman was discovered when security forces, searching for her on suspicion she had ties to al-Qaida, raided her father’s home Thursday outside the former Sunni-insurgent stronghold of Baqouba, 35 miles (60 kilometers) northeast of Baghdad, said Maj. Ghalib al-Karkhi, a police spokesman in Diyala province.
The father, Najim al-Anbaky, was detained in the raid. During questioning he told police he had killed his daughter, Shahlaa, a month earlier because he found out she intended to blow herself up in a suicide attack for al-Qaida, al-Karkhi told The Associated Press.
Al-Anbaky showed police what he said was the woman’s grave, al-Karkhi said. The father remains in custody and is under investgiation, but no charges have been made yet.
A police official at the interior ministry in Baghdad confirmed the killing. He spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.
A female suicide bomber was behind one of the deadliest attack this year in Iraq, after she blew herself up among Shiite pilgrims Baghdad in February, killing 54 people.
So….is this murder? Is this like killing Hitler rather than waiting to send him to trial? Is the father wrong and should he be prosecuted? Could he have saved hundreds, maybe thousands of lives? While we often hear rhetoric demanding that Muslims denounce terrorists, we need to think about several of the parents who have come forward and warned about their children being agents of terrorists. (underpants bomber for example).
Gen. David Petraeus said a church's Quran-burning "is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses."
Several weeks ago we put up a thread about a minister in Florida who planned to burn copies of the Quran on 9/11. To date, there seems to be mo change in his misguided plans.
CNN) — The U.S. commander in Afghanistan on Monday criticized a Florida church’s plan to burn copies of the Quran on September 11, warning the demonstration “could cause significant problems” for American troops overseas.
“It could endanger troops and it could endanger the overall effort in Afghanistan,” Gen. David Petraeus said in a statement issued Monday.
The Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, plans to mark the anniversary of al Qaeda’s September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington by burning copies of the Muslim holy book. The church insists the event is “neither an act of love nor of hate,” but a warning against what it calls the threats posed by Islam.
Good for General Petraeus. Its time someone called out this arrogant man. Who better than the commander of all US troops in Afghanistan.
More from CNN:
With about 120,000 U.S. and NATO-led troops still battling al Qaeda and its allies in the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban movement, Petraeus warned that burning Qurans “is precisely the kind of action the Taliban uses and could cause significant problems — not just here, but everywhere in the world we are engaged with the Islamic community.”
And one of his deputies, Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, told CNN’s “The Situation Room” that event “has already stirred up a lot of discussion and concern” among Afghans.
“We very much feel that this can jeopardize the safety of our men and women that are serving over here in the country,” said Caldwell, the head of NATO efforts to train Afghan security forces.
Caldwell said American troops “are over here to defend the rights of American citizens, and we’re not debating the First Amendment rights that people have.” But he added, “What I will tell you is that their very actions will in fact jeopardize the safety of the young men and women who are serving in uniform over here and also undermine the very mission that we’re trying to accomplish.”
“I would hope they would understand that there are second- and third-order effects that will occur that will affect that young man and woman who’s out there on point for America, serving their nation today, because of their actions back in the United States,” he said
The stupidity and arrogance of this minister is almost unspeakable. When the U.S. Commander tells you that you are endangering the troops, you should listen. If even one of our men or women is killed because of this ignoramous, his entire ministry should be held responsible. How sad that Americans would involve themselves with book burning. Sounds Third Reich to me. I would have no problem with the press being ordered to stay away and the minister barred from his bonfire on 9/11, as a matter of national security. The first amendment is not without some limitations.
Meanwhile, we can only hope that our troops will be safe.
Perhaps everyone is worrying about the wrong thing. How much does this opaque network of top secret agencies, departments, private companies cost the taxpayers How much duplication is there? ? How effective is it? Who is really in control? How do we evaluate it? Has terrorism become even more politicized?
I think I am growing concerned. It sounds like the Patriot Act is on steroids and we didn’t know it.
This story uncovers a tangled web of inner departments that exemplify that the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. Often there are multiple departments doing the same thing. Our own counter terrorism now becomes too big to fail. Where has the Congressonal oversight been the past 5-6 years? GAO cannot investigate intelligence.
The Washington Post uncovers 2 years of investigative reporting. A 4th branch of the government is not mandated by the Constitution. Perhaps the Tea Parties need to start demanding some answers. Perhaps they don’t know who to direct those questions toward. Is this the new Intel-gate?
Dana Priest and William Arkin, the inevestigative journalists just might be the next Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. This is the first of a three part series.
New York (CNN) — A U.S. citizen has been arrested in the Times Square bombing probe, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced early Tuesday.
Faisal Shahzad was arrested at JFK airport in New York as he prepared to board a flight to Dubai, Holder said.
The officials said the suspect is the person who bought a Nissan Pathfinder used in the bombing attempt. Earlier, a law enforcement official said the buyer is a naturalized U.S. citizen from Pakistan, and that investigators are looking at more than one person in connection with the unsuccessful bombing.
The report came as CNN learned that the Joint Terrorism Task Force investigating the bombing attempt is considering the possibility that the attempt involved more than just a “lone wolf.” The identity of the person under scrutiny was not known, however.
According to a source familiar with the investigation, investigators believe the plan was an intended terrorist attack to set off explosives in the heart of midtown Manhattan on Saturday night, but the individuals didn’t have the expertise to detonate their device.
It is important to note that this is an on-going investigation. What a terrific job of capturing the evil-doers.
